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From: Jerry Fitzpatrick <>
Subject: RE: [APG] A Dumb Question
Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 17:40:50 -0600
In-Reply-To: <002101c2ca1f$6e6ab8c0$a52e2644@1pka7>


Thanks again Elizabeth. I had forgotten about 'ibid' but, as you say, its use only
stretches so far. It really is a tough problem to solve, especially when you have hundreds
or thousands of citations!

BTW, you made the right assumption about my earlier question -- I did mean a client
report. However, shouldn't a report/summary from a genealogy program be cited the same
way?

Jerry



-----Original Message-----
From: Mills [mailto:]
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 12:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [APG] A Dumb Question

Jerry asked:
> is there a customary way to avoid redundant source information in a
> report? For example, you might find dozens of obituaries in the same
local newspaper,
> each coming from a different date/edition of the paper. For example:
> Omro Herald, 12 May 1945, Page 2, Column 3
> Omro Herald, 3 Jan 1952, Page 3, Column 1
> Omro Herald, 21 Oct 1955, Page 11, Column 4
> etc.
> Can the repetition of "Omro Herald" be avoided?


Jerry, if you have several of these in a row, the "customary" practice
**in a written work** is to say

1. *Omro Herald*, 12 May 1945, p. 2, col. 3.
2. Ibid., 3 Jan. 1952, p. 3, col. 1.
3. Ibid., 21 Oct. 1955, p. 11, col. 4.

But if, say, the 2nd and 3d citations were your notes 9 and 13, and other
sources are cited in between, then ibid won't work because ibid means "in
the same place as immediately above."

> If so, can the date, page, and column
> information be considered a "sub-source" or something like that? (I'm just
looking for
> ways to make data entry easier.)

Aha! Data entry! Data entry for SOURCES! The terrible problem for which no
easy fix seems to exist <g>.

You can't, of course, enter "ibid" into your source templates the way you
would type it if you were writing a paper. But it seems to me that data
entry here is just about as simple as you can get. *Omro Herald* is the
source. Then the day/page/col. no. is the citation detail that you enter for
each source.

Now I'm wondering about something, Jerry. Last night, when you asked about
whether you had to include x, y, and z in your "report," were you referring
to (a) a client report; or (b) the genealogical summary (aka "report") that
computer software automatically prints from the data we enter? Because we
had been discussing client reports, I assumed you meant "client report" and
responded from that angle. But now I'm wondering if I jumped to the wrong
conclusion.

Elizabeth


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