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From: Bud and Donna Dorr <>
Subject: Re: [APG] Evidence Questions
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 13:05:54 -0400
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Real Dutch uncles and cousins. Shirttail relations...yet another phrase.
I suspect these phrases, which have pretty much the same meaning, are
regional in usage.

Barbara Bennett wrote:

>When I was a kid my grandma talked about our Dutch
>cousins. I didn't know what it meant but I figured it
>was some term like "shirttail relation". It wasn't
>until I was an adult that I found out that our Dutch
>cousins are cousins who live in the Netherlands.
>
>--- Bud and Donna Dorr <> wrote:
>
>
>
>>That's interesting. I wonder if those phrases are
>>used in particular
>>areas of the U. S. I remember "being in Dutch;" knew
>>it wasn't good, but
>>I haven't heard it since I was a youngster. Perhaps
>>the terms are also
>>dated.
>>
>>Bud
>>
>>Mills wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Bud wrote:
>>><And in Maine, too. Then there are Dutch uncles.
>>>
>>>
>>Never did figure out
>>
>>
>>>what they were.>
>>>
>>>Budd, to quote from John Ciardi, *A Browser's
>>>
>>>
>>Dictionary and Native's Guide
>>
>>
>>>to the Unknown American Language* (New York: Harper
>>>
>>>
>>& Row, 1980), 116:
>>
>>
>>>"Dutch Uncle: A well-intentioned but boorishly
>>>
>>>
>>blunt adviser."
>>
>>
>>>Ciardi goes on to propose that the phrase "In
>>>
>>>
>>Dutch" (meaning "in trouble")
>>
>>
>>>is "Perh[aps] associated with the sort of dressing
>>>
>>>
>>down one gets from a
>>
>>
>>>Dutch uncle."
>>>
>>>Elizabeth
>>>
>>>-----------------------
>>>Elizabeth Shown Mills, CG, CGL, FASG
>>>*Isle of Canes*
>>>*Evidence! Citation & Analysis for the Family
>>>
>>>
>>Historian*
>>
>>
>>>*Professional Genealogy: A Manual for Researchers,
>>>
>>>
>>Writers,
>>
>>
>>>Editor, Lecturers, and Librarians*
>>>& other works on Southern and Family History
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>=====
>Barbara Bennett, Columbia, MD
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