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From: Gladys Friedman Paulin <>
Subject: Re: Religious wording (was [APG] Beginner's Software)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 21:39:27 -0500
You and I are on the same wavelength. Like you, I have not looked at PAF in
many years. Based on some of the comments I will take another look.
I am only interested in this for recommendation purposes. Newbies like freebies
and if it will serve the purpose I will add it to my list. If not, not.
For those who want to hold my hand I personally use TMG for my own family and
Roots Magic for clients. I am very happy with both and have no intention of
changing my own files again. I just upgraded to TMG's version 6.
Thanks for all the comments.
Gladys Friedman Paulin, CGRS
Winter Springs, FL
Editor "OnBoard, Newsletter of the Board for Certification of Genealogists"
Vice President, Genealogical Speakers Guild
CGRS, Certified Genealogical Records Specialist, is a Service Mark of the
Board for Certification of Genealogists and used under license by Board-
certified persons who meet program standards and periodic rigorous
Quoting Eileen Polakoff <>:
> I'm providing my own take on the wording that is inappropriate in PAF and
> many other programs. For Jewish genealogists, and for Jews in general, the
> act of baptism or christening is offensive. Therefore, seeing it on a
> computer screen or report that is about your family is especially difficult.
> I believe the point Gladys was trying to make (and I apolgize if it wasn't)
> and one which I always look for in genealogical software is if you are able
> to turn off or hide the words themselves. Even if you don't use the field
> the wording often appears on the screen and may appear on reports even when
> the field is not used. This is what is called "hard coded" I believe.
> Fortunately most programs today allow you to change the fields so it never
> appears anywhere. I am currently using a program to build a website on the
> internet for a family and the word Christening was hard coded as a companion
> word to the header Born. It said "Born/Christened" and it upset me every
> time I looked at it. So I asked the programmer if he could change the hard
> code for me on my version. His first response was that I could just ignore
> the field. But when I explained it was hard coded as a header he understood
> my problem and he was happy to change it for me.
> This has nothing to do with LDS events such as sealing since most programs
> have allowed hiding that for more than ten years. It is possible PAF has
> changed its coding so that you can change the word Baptism or Christening to
> something else or delete it entirely. It has been at least ten years since I
> looked at the program.
> (Gladys... Please excuse me for jumping in on this if you meant something
> ............... [snip]
> Gladys, I believe the appropriate word is [who are not Christians] Mormon.
> Genealogy is a vital part of their religious works but others may not be
> privy to it. Since I am not Mormon, hopefully someone else can answer ....
> -- Trevia
> However, for those of us who are not Christians, the inability to delete
> certain religious event items from the family group sheet (haven't checked
> recent version but assume that is still the case), makes it inappropriate
> for some.
> -- Gladys
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