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From: "Suzanne Russo Adams" <>
Subject: Re: [APG] Mexican Border Crossing on Ancestry
Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 15:28:51 -0600
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Rebecca,

You can see the information about exactly what is contained in a
database by reading the description of the database located from the
individual database search page. Each database on Ancestry has a
description and source information that indicates the completion or
status of the database.

For example, the Hamburg Passenger Lists on Ancestry are not a complete
set. The description of the database tells you caveats of that
collection (ie what years are indexed so far vs. what years are not,
what years are missing, etc.) You can see this example here:

http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=1068&offerid=0%3a7858%3
a0


As for the Mexican Border crossings...

This is the entire description of the database for Mexican Border
Crossings (see below):

http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=1082&offerid=0%3a7858%3
a0

Source Information:
Ancestry.com. Border Crossings: From Mexico to U.S., 1903-1957 [database
on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006. Original
data:

Lists of Aliens Arriving at Brownsville, Del Rio, Eagle Pass, El Paso,
Laredo, Presidio, Rio Grande City, and Roma, Texas, May 1903-June 1909,
and at Aros Ranch, Douglas, Lochiel, Naco and Nogales, Arizona, July
1906-December 1910; (National Archives Microfilm Publication A3365, 5
rolls); Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, Record
Group 85; National Archives, Washington, D.C.


Manifests of Alien Arrivals at Columbus, New Mexico, 1917-1954;
(National Archives Microfilm Publication A3370, 7 rolls); Records of the
Immigration and Naturalization Service, Record Group 85; National
Archives, Washington, D.C.


Manifests of Alien Arrivals at Naco, Arizona, 1908-1952; (National
Archives Microfilm Publication A3372, 18 rolls); Records of the
Immigration and Naturalization Service, Record Group 85; National
Archives, Washington, D.C.


Manifests of Alien Arrivals at Ajo, Lukeville, and Sonoyta (Sonoita),
Arizona, January 1919-December 1952, and at Los Ebanos, Texas, December
1950-May 1955; (National Archives Microfilm Publication A3377, 2 rolls);
Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, Record Group 85;
National Archives, Washington, D.C.

Nonstatistical Manifests and Statistical Index Cards of Aliens Arriving
at Laredo, Texas, May 1930-November 1929; (National Archives Microfilm
Publication A3379, 112 rolls); Records of the Immigration and
Naturalization Service, Record Group 85; National Archives, Washington,
D.C.


Index to Manifests of Permanent and Statistical Alien Arrivals at
Laredo, Texas, December 1929-April 1955; (National Archives Microfilm
Publication A3393, 6 rolls); Records of the Immigration and
Naturalization Service, Record Group 85; National Archives, Washington,
D.C.


Statistical and Nonstatistical Manifests of Alien Arrival at
Brownsville, Texas, February 1905-June 1953; (National Archives
Microfilm Publication M1502, 40 rolls); Records of the Immigration and
Naturalization Service, Record Group 85; National Archives, Washington,
D.C.


Indexes and Manifests of Alien Arrivals at Roma, Texas, March 1928-May
1955; (National Archives Microfilm Publication M1503, 5 rolls; Records
of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, Record Group 85; National
Archives, Washington, D.C.


Manifests of Alien Arrivals at San Luis, Arizona, July 24, 1929-December
1952; (National Archives Micropublication M1504, 2 rolls); Records of
the Immigration and Naturalization Service, Record Group 85; National
Archives, Washington, D.C.


Permanent and Statistical Manifests of Alien Arrivals at Eagle Pass,
Texas, June 1905-June 1953; (National Archives Micropublication M1755,
30 rolls); Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, Record
Group 85; National Archives, Washington, D.C.


Applications for Nonresident Alien's Border Crossing Identification
Cards Made at El Paso, Texas, ca. July 1945-December 1952; (National
Archives Microfilm Publication M1756, 62 rolls); Records of the
Immigration and Naturalization Service, Record Group 85; National
Archives, Washington, D.C.


Manifests of Aliens Granted Temporary Admission at El Passo, Texas, ca.
July 1924-1954; (National Archives Microfilm Publication M1757, 97
rolls); Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, Record
Group 85; National Archives, Washington, D.C.


Nonstatistical Manifests and Statistical Index Cards of Aliens Arriving
at Douglas, Arizona, July 1908-December 1952; (National Archives
Microfilm Publication M1759, 4 rolls); Records of the Immigration and
Naturalization Service, Record Group 85; National Archives, Washington,
D.C.


Manifests of Permanent and Temporary Alien Arrivals at Douglas, Arizona,
September 10, 1906-October 10, 1955; (National Archives Microfilm
Publication M1760, 14 rolls); Records of the Immigration and
Naturalization Service, Record Group 85; National Archives, Washington,
D.C.


Alphabetical Card Manifests of Alien Arrivals at Fort Hancock, Texas,
1924-1954; (National Archives Microfilm Publication M1766, 2 rolls);
Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, Record Group 85;
National Archives, Washington, D.C.


Manifests of Alien Arrivals at San Ysidro (Tia Juana), April 21,
1908-December 1952; (National Archives Microfilm Publication M1767, 20
rolls); Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, Record
Group 85; National Archives, Washington, D.C.


Alphabetical Card Manifests of Alien Arrivals at Fabens, Texas, July
1924-1954; (National Archives Microfilm Publication M1768, 7 rolls);
Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, Record Group 85;
National Archives, Washington, D.C.


Index and manifests of alien arrivals at Nogales, Arizona, 1950-52;
Microfilm Publication M1769, 74 rolls); Records of the Immigration and
Naturalization Service, Record Group 85; National Archives, Washington,
D.C.


Indexes and Manifests of Alien Arrivals at Rio Grande City, Texas,
November 1908-May 1955; (National Archives Microfilm Publication M1770,
6 rolls); Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, Record
Group 85; National Archives, Washington, D.C.


Alphabetical Manifests of Non-Mexican Aliens Granted Temporary Admission
at Laredo, Texas, December 1, 1929-April 1955; (National Archives
Microfilm Publication M1771, 5 rolls); Records of the Immigration and
Naturalization Service, Record Group 85; National Archives, Washington,
D.C.


Manifests of Aliens Granted Temporary Admission at Laredo, Texas,
December 1, 1929-April 8, 1955; (National Archives Microfilm Publication
M1772; 66 rolls); Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service,
Record Group 85; National Archives, Washington, D.C.


Passenger and Crew Lists of Vessels (March 1931-March 1957) and
Airplanes (December 1954-March 1957) Arriving at Brownsville, Texas;
(National Archives Microfilm Publication M1774, 25 rolls); Records of
the Immigration and Naturalization Service, Record Group 85; National
Archives, Washington, D.C.


Manifests of Alien Arrivals at Yseleta, Texas, 1924-1954; (National
Archives Microfilm Publication M1849, 7 rolls); Records of the
Immigration and Naturalization Service, Record Group 85; National
Archives, Washington, D.C.


Index and Manifests of Alien Arrivals at Sasabe/San Fernando, Arizona,
1919-1952; (National Archives Microfilm Publication M1850, 3 rolls);
Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, Record Group 85;
National Archives, Washington, D.C.


Index and Manifests of Alien Arrivals at Progreso/Thayer, Texas, October
1928-May 1955; (National Archives Microfilm Publication M1851, 6 rolls);
Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, Record Group 85;
National Archives, Washington, D.C.


Statistical Manifests of Alien Arrivals By Airplane at San Antonio,
Texas, May 17, 1944-March 1952; (National Archives Microfilm Publication
M1973, 1 roll); Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service,
Record Group 85; National Archives, Washington, D.C.


Lists of Aliens Arriving at Laredo, Texas, from July 1903 to June 1907,
via the Mexican National Railroad or the Laredo Foot Bridge; (National
Archives Microfilm Publication M2008, 1 roll); Records of the
Immigration and Naturalization Service, Record Group 85; National
Archives, Washington, D.C.


Indexes and Manifests of Alien Arrivals at Zapata, Texas, August
1923-September 1953; (National Archives Microfilm Publication M2024, 2
rolls); Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, Record
Group 85; National Archives, Washington, D.C.


Statistical and Nonstatistical Manifests and Related Indexes of Aliens
Arriving at Andrade and Campo (Tecate), California, 1910-1952; (National
Archives Microfilm Publication M2030, 5 rolls); Records of the
Immigration and Naturalization Service, Record Group 85; National
Archives, Washington, D.C.


Temporary and Nonstatistical Manifests of Aliens Arriving at Eagle Pass,
Texas, July 1928-June 1953; (National Archives Microfilm Publication
M2041, 14 rolls); Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service,
Record Group 85; National Archives, Washington, D.C.


Manifests of Statistical Alien Arrivals at El Paso, Texas, May
1909-October 1924; (National Archives Microfilm Publication A3412, 96
rolls); Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, Record
Group 85; National Archives, Washington, D.C.


Nonstatistical Manifests of Temporary Alien Arrivals at Laredo, Texas,
July 1908-February 1912; (National Archives Microfilm Publication A3431,
3 rolls); Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, Record
Group 85; National Archives, Washington, D.C.

About Border Crossings: From Mexico to U.S., 1903-1957
This database contains an index of aliens and some citizens crossing
into the U.S. from Mexico via various ports of entry along the
U.S.-Mexican border between 1903 and 1957. Information contained in this
database includes: name, age, birth date, birthplace, gender, ethnicity,
names of individuals accompanied by, port of arrival, and date of
arrival.

For more information about this database, click here.
This database contains an index of aliens and some citizens crossing
into the U.S. from Mexico via various ports of entry along the
U.S.-Mexican border between 1903 and 1957. Specifically, this database
covers the following ports, years, and records:

Ajo, Lukeville, and Sonoyta, Arizona (Jan. 1919-Dec. 1952) and Los
Ebanos, Texas (Dec. 6, 1950-May 26, 1955)

Index to Manifests of Aliens Admitted for Permanent Residence, Jan. 1,
1919-June 30, 1924

Manifests of Aliens Admitted for Permanent Residence, Jan. 1, 1919-Jun.
30, 1924

Manifests of Aliens Admitted for Permanent Residence and Aliens
Readmitted as Returning U.S. Residents, Jul. 1, 1924-ca. Dec. 1952

Manifests of Aliens Admitted Temporarily, Jul. 1, 1924-ca. Dec. 1952

Los Ebanos: Applications for nonresident Alien's Border Crossing
Identification Cards, Dec. 6, 1950-May 26, 1955.

Douglas, Arizona (Jul. 1908-Dec. 1952)

Nonstatistical manifest cards and statistical index cards (interfiled)

Douglas, Arizona (Sept. 10-1906-Oct. 10, 1955)

Manifests of permanent, temporary, statistical, and nonstatistical alien
arrivals

U.S. citizen arrivals and records of aliens excluded from admission,
Jul. 3, 1911-May 7, 1924.

Naco, Arizona (1908-1952)

Index to statistical manifests, nonstatistical manifests, and
agricultural laborer manifests (all interfiled), 1908-1924

Statistical manifests, May 1908-Jun. 1924

Manifests of aliens admitted for permanent residence, Jul. 1924-ca. Dec.
1952

Manifests of aliens admitted temporarily, Jul. 1924-ca. Dec. 1952

Nogales, Arizona (Jul. 1905-1952)

Index to statistical manifests interfiled with nonstatistical manifests,
ca. 1905-ca. 1926

Statistical manifests, Jul. 5, 1905-Oct. 1924

Aliens admitted for permanent residence and applications for resident
alien border crossing identification cards, Jul. 1924-1952

Aliens admitted for temporary visits, 1927-1952

A few U.S. citizen arrivals are also included

San Luis, Arizona (Jul. 24, 1929-Dec. 1952)

Manifest records of aliens admitted for permanent residence

Manifest records of aliens admitted for temporary visits

Sasabe/San Fernando, Arizona (1919-1952)

Index to Statistical Manifests, Jan. 1, 1919-Jun. 30, 1924

Statistical and Permanent Manifests, Jan. 1, 1919-Jun. 30, 1924

Manifest Records of Aliens Readmitted as Returning U.S. Residents, Jul.
1, 1924-1952

Nonstatistical and Temporary Manifests, 1927-1952

Statistical and Permanent Manifests, 1919

Andrade and Campo (Tecate), California (1910-1952)

Statistical and nonstatistical manifests, and related index cards, of
permanent and temporary alien arrivals

San Ysidro (Tia Juana), California (Apr. 21, 1908-Dec. 1952)

Statistical and Nonstatistical Manifests Interfiled Alphabetically, Apr.
21, 1908-Dec. 1952

Statistical and Nonstatistical Manifests Interfiled Chronologically,
Apr. 21, 1908-Jun. 30, 1924

Nonstatistical Manifests, Dec. 7, 1923-Jun. 30, 1924, of Head Taxes
Transferred to Regular Fund, Jul. 1924-Feb. 1925, and Head Taxes
Refunded, Jul. 1, 1924-Nov. 29, 1924

Columbus, New Mexico (1917-1954)

Statistical Manifests, Feb. 2-4, 1917 and ca. July 1, 1924-ca. Sept. 30,
1952

Statistical Index Cards and Statistical Manifests, ca. 1917-ca. 1944

Nonstatistical Manifests, ca. 1917-1926

Sheet Manifests, 1919 and 1921-1924

Admitted for Temporary Visits, 1924-1954

Permanent and Temporary Alien Admissions, 1953-1954

U.S. Citizen Admissions, 1924-1954

Applications for Nonresident Alien's Border Crossing Identification
Cards, ca. 1945-ca. 1952

Brownsville, Texas (Feb. 1905-Mar. 31, 1957)

Index to Statistical Manifests, Feb. 1905-Mar. 1952, interfiled with
Nonstatistical Manifests, Feb. 1905-Nov. 1929

Statistical Manifests, Feb. 1905-Mar. 1952

Nonstatistical Manifests, Dec. 1929-Jun. 1953

Passenger and crew lists of vessels (Mar. 24, 1931-Mar. 31, 1957) and
airplanes (Dec. 1, 1954-Mar. 31, 1957). Both U.S. citizens and aliens
are included.

Lists of outbound passengers and some lists of arrivals at Port Arthur
and Port Isabel, Texas (1950s)

Eagle Pass, Texas (Jun. 1905-Jun. 1953)

Card manifests of alien temporary and nonstatistical arrivals (Jul. 1,
1928-Jun. 1953)

Manifests of permanent and statistical arrivals (Jun. 1905-Jun. 1953)

El Paso, Texas (May 1909-Oct. 1924)

Manifests of statistical alien arrivals

El Paso, Texas (ca. Jul. 1924-Dec. 1954)

Applications for Nonresident Alien's Border Crossing Identification
Cards (ca. Jul. 1945-Dec. 1952), with the majority of the applications
made between 1948 and 1952

Card manifests of aliens granted temporary admission to the U.S. (ca.
Jul. 1924-Dec. 1954)

A few U.S. citizen arrivals and records of exclusion of aliens are also
included

Fabens, Texas (Jul. 1924-1954)

Manifest records of aliens admitted for temporary visits, Jul. 1,
1924-1954

Manifest records of aliens admitted for permanent residence, Jul. 1,
1924-Jul. 27, 1952

Applications for Nonresident Alien's Border Crossing Identification
Cards, ca. 1945-Dec. 24, 1952

Fort Hancock, Texas (1924-1954)

Manifest records of aliens admitted for temporary visits, 1924-1954,
with the majority dated from 1931-1944

Applications for Nonresident Alien's Border Crossing Identification
Cards, ca. 1945-Dec. 24, 1952

A few U.S. citizen arrivals and records of exclusion of aliens are also
be included

Laredo, Texas (Jul. 1908-Feb. 1912)

Manifests of nonstatistical alien arrivals (INS Form 548)

Laredo, Texas (May 1903-Apr. 1955)

Nonstatistical manifests and statistical index cards of alien arrivals.
Some U.S. citizens are also included, May 1903-Nov. 1929

Index cards providing information about permanent and statistical alien
arrivals, Dec. 1, 1929-Apr. 29, 1955

Nonstatistical manifests of non-Mexican aliens granted temporary
admission, Dec. 1, 1929-Apr. 8, 1955

Card manifests of aliens granted temporary admission to the U.S., Dec.
1, 1929-Apr. 8, 1955

A few U.S. citizen arrivals and some records of exclusion of aliens are
also included

Lists of aliens arriving via the Mexican National Railroad or the Laredo
Foot Bridge, Jul. 1903-Jun. 1907

Progreso/Thayer, Texas (Oct. 1928-May 1955)

Index to Statistical Manifests, Oct. 6, 1928-Nov. 19, 1952

Statistical Manifests, Oct. 6, 1928-Nov. 19, 1952

Nonstatistical and Temporary Manifests, Oct. 1928-May 27, 1955

Rio Grande City, Texas (Nov. 1908-May 1955)

Index to Statistical Manifests, Nov. 16, 1908-Jan. 15, 1952

Statistical Manifests, Nov. 16, 1908-Jan. 15, 1952

Nonstatistical Manifests, Mar. 22, 1916-May 30, 1955

Roma, Texas (Mar. 1928-May 1955)

Index to Statistical Manifests, Aug.13, 1929-Aug. 19, 1954

Statistical and Nonstatistical Manifests, Mar. 1, 1928-Nov. 30, 1929

Statistical Manifests, Aug. 13, 1929-Aug. 19, 1954

Nonstatistical and Temporary Manifests, Mar. 1, 1928-May 30, 1955

San Antonio, Texas (May 17, 1944-Mar. 1952)

Statistical manifests of permanent and temporary alien arrivals by
airplane

Yseleta, Texas (Jul. 1924-1954)

Statistical and Permanent Manifests, Jul. 1, 1924-Jul. 27, 1952

Manifests of Aliens Admitted for Temporary Visits, 1924-1954

Applications for Nonresident Alien's Border Crossing Identification
Cards made before Dec. 24, 1952

A few U.S. citizen arrivals and records of exclusion from entry are also
included

Zapata, Texas (Aug. 1923-Sep. 1953)

Index to Statistical Manifests, Dec. 1, 1929-Jun. 7, 1950

Statistical Manifests, Aug. 18, 1923-Jun. 7, 1950

Nonstatistical and statistical cards (interfiled), Aug. 18, 1923-Nov.
30, 1929

Nonstatistical and Temporary Manifests, Apr. 25, 1929-Sept. 10, 1952

Applications for Nonresident Alien's Border Crossing Identification
Cards, Apr. 29, 1945-Sep. 15, 1953

A few U.S. citizen arrivals are also included

Manifests for INS District of El Paso, Texas

Brownsville, Texas (Jul. 1906-Jun. 1909)

Del Rio, Texas (Jul.-Sep. 1906, Jul.-Jun. 1909)

Eagle Pass, Texas (Jul. 1906-Jun. 1909)

El Paso, Texas (May 1903-Jun. 1909)

Laredo, Texas (Jul. 1906-Jun. 1909)

Presidio, Texas (Mar.-Sep. 1908, Jan.-Apr. 1909)

Rio Grande City, Texas (Nov. 1908, Jun. 1909)

Aros Ranch, Arizona (Feb.-Sep. 1908, Jan.-Mar. 1909)

Douglas, Arizona (Jul. 1906-Dec. 1910)

Lochiel, Arizona (Jul.-Dec. 1908)

Naco, Arizona (Jul. 1906-Jun. 1909)

Nogales, Arizona (Sep. 1906-Jun. 1909)

In addition, the names found in the index are linked to actual images of
the records, copied from National Archives and Records Administration
(NARA) microfilm (see Source Information for microfilm series
information).

A variety of Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) forms were
used to record information about individuals entering the United States.
Types of forms used included: List or Manifest of Alien Passengers for
the U.S. Immigration Officer at Port of Arrival; Record of Aliens
Arriving; Alien Laborer's Identification Card; Land Border Departure
Record; and Record of Registry. Due to the variety of forms, the amount
of information available for an individual in this database will vary
according to the form used and the questions asked on it. The type of
information that is generally contained in this database though,
includes:

Name

Age

Birth date

Birthplace

Gender

Ethnicity/nationality

Names of individuals accompanied by

Port of arrival

Arrival date

Additional information about an individual may be recorded on the
original document and may be obtained by viewing the corresponding
image. Some records even include a photograph of the individual or their
family.

The majority of the records are arranged alphabetically by surname. Some
of them are arranged by Soundex code. The records can include both
permanent and temporary as well as statistical and nonstatistical
arrivals.



SUZANNE RUSSO ADAMS, AG(r)
APG Board Member, Orem, UT



-----Original Message-----
From: [mailto:] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 3:23 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [APG] Mexican Border Crossing on Ancestry

I wonder if the Mexican Border Crossings is complete, ie. are all the
sources listed as sources available today? While I can pull up *some*
entries for my grandmother's siblings, my grandmother is not listed -
anyway I can't find her yet and she should be there multiple times.
There should also be more entries for her siblings. It is great to see
the few entries available for my family!

Ancestry.com often doesn't indicate the lack of completeness of a
database when it is first posted. I suspect it will be some time before
all the sources cited are actually online. I should stop being
surprised by the announcements that a database is "now complete" long
after it was first announced as being available. I guess I will have
to keep checking back.

Rebecca Christensen
Member, Association of Professional Genealogists

"Alvie L. Davidson CG" <> wrote:
I just visited the new listing for Mexican border crossings and pulled
up some familiar names which I was sure were in Mexico before moving to
the United States. This is an exciting part of Ancestry.
The list can be found under:

Genealogy Databases Posted or Updated Recently

Lots and lots of other new stuff is already in this segment.

Alvie L. Davidson CG

Lakeland, Florida

http://alviesgenealogyspot.blogspot.com/

CG and Certified Genealogist are Service Marks of the Board for
Certification of Genealogists used under license after periodic
evaluations by the Board.









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