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From: Jeanette Daniels <>
Subject: Re: [APG] BA in Genealogical Studies at Akamai University
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:11:13 -0800 (PST)


It is my understanding that the universities and colleges that allow students to CLEP out of classes do so with general education-type classes and not core classes of the major. The highschool AP classes are for math, english, and science that count towards general education requirements. I do think that giving credit for other programs' courses should be looked at closely especially when giving credit for the major courses of the degree. The genealogical courses, certifications, etc., that are accepted must be similar to what you (Akamai faculty) are requiring anyway as part of the major requirement goals.

I have never heard of "double dipping" and never did that for my double major. I guess it depends upon where you go to college whether that would be allowed. It would be very difficult to judge "life experience" for college credit. I've heard of this but have no concept of how that could really be evaluated. It is important to make the degree something that will be respected anywhere.


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From: "" <>
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 9:37:03 PM
Subject: Re: [APG] BA in Genealogical Studies at Akamai University

There are many colleges who give credit for things like "Life Experience,"
upon review of the details involved and their own policies.

Almost all colleges and universities let you CLEP out of classes by taking a
test. If you can pass the test, you get credit and don't have to take the
class at all.

Many high school students enter college with an accumulation of college
credits for AP classes they took while still a high school student.

And in my college career, there were many times I "double-dipped." That is,
I used one course to satisfy two different requirements.

Moreover, every college and university has "Independent Study" credits -- if
you can find a professor to work with you (and sometimes that just means
signing his name to a form), you can complete a course where you basically
work on your own, under the "direction" of a faculty member, to study some
area in which there is no formal class. Internships usually earn college
credits also.

In other words, there are myriad ways to get college credit in the usual
academic world. The only requirement is that the college that bestows the
credit for something other than a regular class taught by their own
institution decides to accept it as meeting their standards.

For Akamai University to accept credits for earning a CG, or for completing
other coursework or certifications, is perfectly in line with normal
academic policies. Like many universities, they may alter the requirements
somewhat. For example, just taking Elizabeth Mills' class doesn't get you a
credit. Anybody can just sit there for a week, surreptitiously listening to
their iPod, not paying attention, and learning nothing (although I wouldn't
want to be the one trying to get THAT one past her!); for Akamai to give
credit for her course, you have to do extra work, in line with what you
would normally complete in a college course, to show that you've learned
what the class had to offer.

I don't in any way see possibilities for the kind of problems Donn
mentioned. Who is going to discriminate? BCG? Nope. Akamai? Nope. I cannot
imagine any genealogical group being so petty that they would impede the
career of a fellow genealogist merely because they were associated with some
other organization . . . unless it's the KKK or something of that ilk <g>.

Regards, Carolyn
Carolyn Earle Billingsley, Ph.D.
Lone Star Chapter, APG

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To: <>
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [APG] BA in Genealogical Studies at Akamai University

> Gordon Harmon wrote::
> I am not clear as to how obtaining one's CG from the BCG can be used for
> college credits. Can someone explain the logic and academic standards
> behind
> this? Is there a precedence to this? What is the position of the BCG on
> this?
> There's no relationship whatever between certification and college
> credits,
> and there's no reason I can see why BCG should have a position on the
> matter.
> However, I can foresee problems of the sort faced by a friend of mine
> some
> years ago. He took and passed the CPA examination before completing his
> bachelor's degree in accounting. His faculty adviser, who had taken and
> failed the
> test, made the rest of his senior year extremely difficult, but he
> weathered
> it and went on to a successful CPA career and partnership in a firm.
> Donn Devine, CG, CGL
> Wilmington, Delaware, USA
> CG, Certified Genealogist, CGL, and Certified Genealogical Lecturer are
> service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under
> license
> by board certificants after periodic evaluation, and the board name is
> registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office.
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