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From: "Barbara Vines Little, CG" <>
Subject: Re: [APG] Ancestry partnership: Respond to NARA's requestfor feedback
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:23:37 -0400
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But they don't have an ESM on staff.
Barbara Vines Little, CG
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Orange, VA 22960
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> With regard to citations for NARA sources that we download from digital
> providers, Barbara Vines Little wrote:
>> In the best of all worlds, every document we print out would give us the
>> option of a source citation in CMS, Evidence, MLA or whatever style ...
> Barbara, in a *really* ideal world, CMS and MLA would actually cover the
> citation of NARA records!
> MLA STYLE?
> The latest available edition of Gibaldi's _MLA Handbook_, officially
> published by the Modern Language Association in 2003 (the 2008 edition isn't
> released yet), has absolutely nothing of the sort. In fact, there are only
> 4 passages that deal with unpublished material of whatever type:
> 5.6.26 "An Unpublished Dissertation"
> 5.8.11 "A Lecture, a Speech, an Address, or a Reading"
> 5.8.12 "A Manuscript or Typescript"
> 5.8.13 "A Letter of Memoir"
> CMS STYLE?
> The _Chicago Manual of Style_ does have more examples of unpublished
> records--17 whole passages" 17.222 -37 and 17.324. Of these, the first one
> and the last one deal with NARA.
> 17.222 -- refers to NARA's own guide and quotes 3 sentences from it. No
> 17.324 -- provides *one* example, again refers the reader to the NARA guide,
> and adds that 17.222-31 contain "examples which can be *adapted* to
> government documents."
> Just think! If CMS and MLA *did* provide researchers with the guidance they
> need for citing NARA sources, I could have dispensed with pages 537-642 of
> _Evidence Explained._ I'm sure the publisher would have been happy at not
> having to pay for printing those 106 pages.
> In fact, I'd have been very happy if CMS and MLA covered all the unpublished
> sources that genealogists and historians use, because I'd have had 12
> glorious years in which I could have focused on researching my Showns and
> Jeffcoats and Witters and Days and Odoms and Boyds and Rachals and ....
> Elizabeth Shown Mills, CG, CGL, FASG
> APG Member, Tennessee
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