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From: "Kate Foote" <>
Subject: Re: [APG] Help reading census please...
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 19:14:36 -0500
I want to extend my thanks to everyone who has assisted me with this, both
on list and off. Far from just helping read a census entry you have gone
the extra mile to try and locate the actual place of birth and suggest
further areas of research. Who better to pose a question to than the APG
list? - the finest genealogical minds anywhere!
I had already ordered the death certificate for Ellsworth Lukenbill from
the Minnesota Historical Society as many have suggested - a must use site
for anyone researching in Minnesota. My order confirmation says I should
receive the certificate in 15-20 days, but from previous experience with
them it will most likely arrive much sooner. BTW: When ordering birth
certificates from them you will find that most records can be emailed to you
within a 24 hour turnaround period. You will then have 72 hours to view and
download your image. I love that!
When the record arrives I will let you all know what information is
contained. But that may be a few weeks from now since I will actually be in
north central Minnesota from July 8th till ?? Wi-Fi is scattered, at best,
in the areas of my initial research destinations, and my final "resting"
place is not equipped with internet access at all - but oh, the lake and the
sunsets, and the beauty! You'll hear from me when I tear myself away and
return to the real world. <bg> Thanks again.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [mailto:] On Behalf
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:44 PM
> To: Rollie Littlewood
> Subject: Re: [APG] Help reading census please...
> Importance: High
> The initial indexing for the Minnesota Death Index (online at
> contracted out by the Minnesota Health Department and did not include all
> the fields that are listed on the index. Thus,the "NA" listed for the
> birth for Ellsworth J. LUKENBILL does not mean that the information is not
> the record itself.
> Another source for his place of birth would be an obituary. The Minnesota
> Historical Society has the largest collection of Minnesota newspapers. You
> request microfilmed copies through Interlibrary loan. For a list of
> click on "Collections" on the MHS website.
> Joanne M. Sher
> Duluth, MN
> Member of APG
> Quoting Rollie Littlewood <>:
> > At 02:15 AM on 7/2/2008 Kory L. Meyerink, AG wrote:
> > >...it seems clear that Ellsworth was indeed born in Iowa. Not only
> > does the 1880 census show that he, and an older brother were born in
> > Iowa, but his 1910, 1920 and 1930 census records (all in Minnesota) all
> > confirm his Iowa birth, as does the 1905 Minnesota state census....
> > I would say that Kory has found pretty convincing evidence that Iowa
> > is right and that any New York idea should be scrapped. The Iowa state
> > censuses are unlikely to be of any help, as the years they were taken
> > are nowhere near when Ellsworth was born. I have to wonder if "Ballona"
> > could have been a "local name" for some place in Iowa which didn't make
> > it into the atlas-type lists. I don't find anything very close in
> > AniMap's SiteFinder. I have a prejudice against Balfour being the
> > birthplace, as it is on the western border of Iowa; I am expecting the
> > "right place" to be near the Mississippi.
> > The MHS death certificate index INDICATES that there is no
> > birthplace mentioned on the death certificate for Ellsworth J.
> > LUKENBILL (note the spelling difference), but it will cost you only $9
> > to find out for sure. Elsworth (that is how he signed the card)
> > Lukenbill's World War I registration gives a precise date of birth (28
> > June 1875), but "old men" (those who registered in September 1918) were
> > not asked for their place of birth.
> > Rollie
> > .
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