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Subject: Re: [APG] document questions Lincoln ancestry?
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:39:22 EDT
I am not sure how DNA would answer the question, but it has been theorized
that he may have had Marfan's Syndrome.
In a message dated 7/13/2008 10:26:07 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
The controversy about Abraham Lincoln's ancestry has swirled ever since
Old Abe entered politics.
No one has put the Enloe or the Calhoun or other theories to rest, nor
have they actually systematically analyzed how many contemporaneous
"Nancy Hanks" there were that could be plucked from any one record into
a time line for Abraham Lincoln's birth mother - or any birth father.
Here's critical pieces of information to consider, each with a challenge
- plus two bonus questions.
A Thomas Lincoln and Nancy Hanks married on June 12, 1806, in Washington
County, Kentucky. What sources support a proof that this is or is not
the marriage for the people that Abraham Lincoln knew as his parents, or
how their lives could be realistically characterized in that time period
and the various other locales they lived in.
Abraham Lincoln's birth date is officially given as February 12, 1809 -
defeating both the Enloe and Calhoun stories, but these "other than
Lincoln" parentage proponents say that Lincoln was actually born much
earlier, often citing his aged look in photographs near the end of his
life. What sources support an Abraham Lincoln birth date that is or is
not February 12, 1809. The 2009 Lincoln Bicentennial rests on your
What physical conditions are theorized as those that could be examined
by DNA analysis to confirm or deny Abraham Lincoln's descent from his
father of record Thomas Lincoln, despite the fact that Abraham Lincoln
has no left lineal descendants.
What time line sources are critical to chronicling the actual life of
Abraham Lincoln, and where can you find them?
> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:47:42 -0500
> From: Carolyn Earle Billingsley <>
> Subject: [APG] document questions Lincoln ancestry
> This interesting and provocative article link arrived in my inbox
> this morning (I have a Goggle Alert for "genealogy," among other topis).
> GENEALOGY: Stunning document questions Lincoln ancestry
> By Tamie Dehler
> Special to the Tribune-Star
> Seems to me like I read a book over 30 years ago along a similar vein
> and my fading memory thinks the book's title was _Lincoln's Mohter_
> or something similar. Again, my memory is vague but I recall it as
> posing the probability of Nancy Hanks' past.and motherhood as not
> quite so clear as the American myth has it.
> Just a little food for your brain this morning . . .
> Carolyn Earle Billingsley, Ph.D.
> 2100 Pleasant Grove Road, Alexander, AR 72002-9154
> Telephone and Fax: 501.847.0114; Cell: 501.960.3963
> Web site: www.cebillingsley.net; Blog: http://cebillingsley.blogspot.com/
> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:14:45 -0400
> From: Elizabeth Whitaker <>
> I've heard about this before. There's also an
> oral tradition/word of mouth in Upstate South
> Carolina that Lincoln was an illegitimate son
> of John C. Calhoun by Nancy Hanks and that
> Calhoun paid Lincoln to marry the pregnant
> Nancy Hanks and get her out of the area.
> Elizabeth Whitaker
> From: "Cheryl Rothwell" <>
> This is not new -- or maybe not new to those of us who grew up in
> Lincolnland. Those who preserve Lincoln's image, including the state of
> Illinois which is home to the new Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library,
> refuse to consider it. I had email correspondence with several of them last
> fall on this subject. They were very clear that they intend to stick with
> the official story. A major Lincoln event is occurring in 2009 - 200th
> anniversary of his birth, Perhaps when that is over they will be more
> inclined to open their minds a crack.
> You must keep in mind that Herndon, who was Lincoln's junior partner, had
> his own agenda and more than a few of his statement have been proven
> incorrect. It doesn't mean this one is though. Abe and Thomas Lincoln did
> not have the best of relationships but that is not uncommon.
> You can read Herndon's version at:
> Here is the tiny URL: *http://preview.tinyurl.com/5l2jnc*
> From: "Randy Seaver" <>
> The Genealogy Today article is at
> http://www.genealogytoday.com/us/lincoln/genesis.html. It links to a PDF.
> A Google search for ["abraham lincoln" AND enloe] will bring up many
> newspaper articles and some Google books that discuss the hypothesis.
> There was a book published in 1920 titled "The Paternity of Abraham
> Lincoln's: Was He the son of Thomas Lincoln? An Essay on the Chastity of
> Nancy Hanks" was published in 1920 by William E. Barton (George H. Doran
> Company, New York). It is available on Google Books in full.
> An article at the web site Abraham Lincoln Online at
> http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/father.htm discusses the
> hypothesis and provides some analysis of it, concluding that Lincoln was
> the son of Enloe.
> There is lots more out there - will we ever know? Unfortunately, there
> doesn't seem to be a patrilineal descendant from Abraham Lincoln to prove
> anything using a Y-DNA test.
> Cheers -- Randy Seaver ()
> From: "philip thorne" <>
> As the author pointed out in the article there were different books written
> about Lincoln and of course his son would have wanted certain things to be
> "sanitized" because there was so much mystery surrounding Lincoln's
> and his opponents wasted no time portraying him as a Moorish despot named
> Abraham Africanus. Interestingly with Obama running for President the
> debate about his claim to being the first Black President should he win is
> being challenged by those who believe that there were six Presidents before
> Obama who had mixed ancestry.
> More food for thought.
> Philip Thorne
> Queens, NY
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