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From: Everett B Ireland <>
Subject: Re: [APG] 1890 Veteran's Census
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:02:38 -0700
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Chad:
I believe that the second edition of the Van Tyne and Leland book is
online at Google Books. I just downloaded a copy.
Regards, Everett Ireland

Chad Milliner wrote:

>I know that it is widely presumed that the fire of 10 Jan 1921 destroyed the first half of the 1890 veterans schedules. Just like it is widely presumed that all of the missing schedules of the 1790-1810 censuses were destroyed in the War of 1812, despite the fact that few schedules from those censuses are thought to have been in Washington in 1812.
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>In 1907, a guide to manuscript federal records published by the Carnegie Institution (Guide to the Archives of the Government of the United States in Washington by Claude Halstead Van Tyne and Waldo Gifford Leland) lists on page 239 that, sometime before 1907, the 1890 census veterans schedules had been transferred to the Pension Bureau (then a part of the Interior Department). So unless the 1890 veterans schedules were moved back to the Commerce Department's building between 1907 and 1921, they would not have been where the fire was.
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>It is possible that the veterans schedules were destroyed in an earlier fire in March 1896, but all that I have seen documented as being damaged by that fire were "the original 1890 special schedules for mortality, crime, pauperism and benevolence, special classes (e.g., deaf, dumb, blind, insane), and portions of the transportation and insurance schedules." http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/1996/spring/1890-census-1.html The portions of those special schedules that survived the 1896 fire were later destroyed by order of the Interior Department.
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>So if anyone out there does have a source that describes exactly what (fire, human, or otherwise) that caused the destruction of the first half of the 1890 veterans schedules, let me know. Or even a source that describes where the veterans schedules were circa 1907-1921 would be helpful.
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Charles S. Mason, Jr.
>Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 8:11 AM
>To: Richard A. Pence;
>Subject: Re: [APG] 1890 Veteran's Census
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>Richard,
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>Yes, the schedules from Alabama through half of Kentucky were lost. It is believed this was the result of the fire that damaged and caused the loss of most of the population schedules.
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>Chuck Mason,
>Fairfax Co., VA
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Richard A. Pence" <>
>To: <>
>Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 5:47 AM
>Subject: [APG] 1890 Veteran's Census
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>>I went to Ancestry.com to see if I could find a soldier in Indiana in
>>the 1890 Veteran's Census and discovered there are no listings in any
>>of "the I states" (Illinois, Indiana, Iowa). Were these schedules
>>lost or is there some other reason why they aren't on line?
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>>Richard P.
>>Fairfax, Virginia
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