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From: "Charles S. Mason, Jr." <>
Subject: Re: [APG] Incorrect Information
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 11:52:39 -0400
References: <174833.58419.qm@web56905.mail.re3.yahoo.com>


I use the IGI and the Ancestral File like I would any other secondary
source. I check the information found there with other sources. My first
find many years ago in the IGI was the marriage of my second great
grandparents. I found a book that said they were married but gave no place
or date for the marriage. A search of the IGI found their marriage and the
court clerk's records where it was recorded. When I ordered the film of the
records, I found the marriage recorded in the clerk's record book (a
derivative source) and the piece of paper the minister recorded the marriage
on (an original source) and sent to the clerk's office. From that IGI
record I found two records of the marriage. The IGI was extremely helpful
in finding these ancestors, when I had no idea where they lived in NJ.

That said I have not found a great deal of information on my ancestors. If
you have no clue where they might be located, it can give you a starting
point like the marriage records did. I found another of my families and if
I believed what is in the Ancestral File, my third great grandmother had her
first child when she was six years old.

You just have to carefully evaluate the information you find in these two
sources before you use it. The IGI and Ancestral File are by no means
perfect, but they can still be very useful resources.

Chuck Mason
Fairfax, VA

----- Original Message -----
From: "Barbara de Mare" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 8:43 AM
Subject: [APG] Incorrect Information

Ah yes, another of those things I don't understand--why people think if the
Mormons have it in their library or publish it, it is gospel. The IGI is a
prime example. Why anyone even looks at it is beyond me. This is just
another example of why trying to correct all mis-information on the web is
impossible and, IMHO, a complete waste of my valuable and too short research

Although the FHL now wants a little more proof of a line before printing it,
there was a time they took anything submitted. I once found a roll of
microfilm in the FHL which in addition to what I was seeking contained two
genealogies from the submitters back to Adam and Eve.

Barbara L. de Mare, Esq.
Attorney, historian, genealogist, grandmother
155 Polifly Road
Hackensack, New Jersey 07601

(201) 567-9440 office

----- Original Message ----
From: Richard A. Pence <>
To: ; Neal Underwood <>
Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2008 7:09:50 AM
Subject: Re: [APG] Incorrect Information

An important aspect of using on-line resources is to understand the nature
of the data we are looking at.

The IGI, for example, is accepted by many as "gospel" even though most of us
known that the user-submitted portions of it are quite inaccurate. One of my
great grandfathers is in the IGI five times - once linked to his mother,
once to his father, once to both parents and twice all by himself. Three
different dates of birth - none of which are correct - are given. I know of
one instance where an entirely fictitious family is included in the IGI. And
this is a database that CAN'T be corrected.

The Ancestral File is so contaminated with bad information that I fear it is
like a villages in Viet Nam: We have to destroy it in order to save it.

I long since have given up trying to correct the errors I find. Instead I
try to remind researchers that they need to verity everything they might
find on the 'Net (and in print) - including what I put there.

Richard P.
Fairfax, Virginia

----- Original Message -----
From: "Neal Underwood" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: [APG] Incorrect Information

> The problem of incorrect information is further exacerbated by Ancestry's
> scheme of mindless computer matching and merging of data. The results are
> easily predictable. Unfortunately, this website gives the appearance of
> authority to novices. For just one example, try searching their merged
> OneWorldTree database for Edmund Rice who died in 1663 in Marlborough,
> Middlesex County, Massachusetts. Eight combinations of parents are
> shown. Which is correct? Actually, none. Decades of diligent research
> by
> the Edmund Rice Association have determined that his parents are not
> known.
> That alternative is not shown.


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