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From: bob gillis <>
Subject: Re: [APG] ship list 1920 Norfolk VA
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 17:20:50 -0400
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Debbie, MARA has Norfolk PALs only for Norfolk for 1820 - 1857. i
cannot tell if 1. any later records were kept and have been lost; the
PALs for these vessels "Arriving at Atlantic and Gulf Coast Ports" were
never retained or the Norfolk PALs are filed in some other port records.

Looking at web sites pf the NARA, who would have the 1920 records, and
Homeland Security which is now in charge of Immigration, I cannot tell
which one would know what the regulations were for Norfolk and these
Misc. Port. in 1920.

There is a Find and Request form on the NARA site but you have to go
though several screens and register to use it.

It looks to me that Norfolk was in INS District 5, Baltimore but the
Baltimore PALs for 1910 -1953 are not available either.

I think HS may have the regulations for Norfolk arrivals in 1920 but i
doubt anyone there would know or take the time to find them.

I trust you have looked at
http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/passengers.html by Joe Beine. I think
that he or Steve Morse probably know more about PALs than anyone else.

I would try the NARA Find and Request route first, then search and if
nothing found join and ask on TheShipsList.

bob gillis

Debbie Petrides wrote:
> Every few months I dust off the certificate of arrival for this
> individual and go searching for the original ship list.
>
> I am determined this time to find it.
>
> So far looking at the lists Nara has available and checking
> ancestry.com has turned up nothing.
>
> Where are the manifests located for ships arriving in Norfolk, VA in
> 1920? The name of the ship is the S.S.
>
> Nicolaos Zafirakis which (according to the declaration of intent)
> last port of call was Marseilles, France. (although it was a Greek
> ship which set sail from either Piraeus or Patras)
>
>
>
> At one point, someone directed me to some maritime museum in VA but
> they were reorganizing and it didn't seem they had what I was looking
> for anyway.
>
>
>
> Can someone lend a clue?
>
>
>
> It would be graciously appreciated,
>
> Debbie
>
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