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From: "~Ford~" <>
Subject: Fw: five descent-lines from Mohammed "The Prophet of Islam"
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:02:11 -0500


----- Original Message -----
From: "Leo van de Pas" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, 09 April, 2004 02:06
Subject: Re: five descent-lines from Mohammed "The Prophet of Islam"


> I think this is exciting and interesting, but I feel uneasy when Zayda
> appears again as daughter instead of daughter-in-law, breaking the line.
But
> how do the other lines stand up? Does anyone know?
> Best wishes
> Leo van de Pas
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Hughes" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 3:16 PM
> Subject: five descent-lines from Mohammed "The Prophet of Islam"
>
>
> > five descent-lines from Mohammed "The Prophet of Islam"
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> > Mohammed "The Prophet of Islam", d632
> > =1 Khadija [her 3rd =]
> > =2 Sauda
> > =3 Aisha, dau of Abu-Bakr, [1st] Caliph 632-634;
> > =4 Hafsah, dau of Umar, [Omar], [2nd] Caliph 634-644
> > =5 Zawdah [Zainab], dau of Umar [Omar], [2nd] Caliph
> > =6 Salaina
> > =7 Mabiba
> > =8 Djuwairiya
> > =9 Safiya
> > =10 Maimouna
> > =11 Marie
> > =12 Raihana
> > issue:
> > (a) Ruqayyah [Roccija]; = Uthman [Othman], [3rd] Caliph 644-656
> > (b) Kulthum, = Utayba, son of Abu Lahab
> > (c) Fatimah; = Ali, [4th] Caliph 656-661
> > etc
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> > LINE 1:
> > 01. Mohammed "The Prophet of Islam", d632
> > 02. Roccija
> > = Othman, [3rd] Caliph 644-656
> > 03. Aisha [or dau of Muawiya, Caliph 661-680]
> > = Marwan I ben Hakim, Caliph 683-5
> > 04. name, sis of Abd-al-Malik, Caliph 685-705
> > = Muza ben Nasar [Nuseir], conqueror
> > 05. Abd-al-Aziz [ibn Musa], d717
> > 06. Aisha [or dau of Abdul Yazid al-Wallid Umayyade]
> > = Fortun ibn Cassio
> > 07. Muza ibn Fortun, governor of Saragoza, d788
> > 08. Muza ibn Muza, governor of Saragoza, d863
> > = Assona Iniguez de Pampelune
> > 09. Lope [ibn Musa ibn Musa], gov of Saragoza (875)
> > = Ayab al Bulatiya
> > 10. Auria [Aurea] (dau)
> > = Fortun Garces "el Monje" of Pampelune
> > 11. Onega
> > = Abdallah, Emir of Spain 848-912, son of Muhammad I, Caliph, in
> > Spain
> > 12. Zayd
> > 13. Zaydan ibn Zayd [Zedao Zada]
> > 14. Zaira
> > = Lovesendo Ramirez de Leon
> > 15. Abu-Nazir Lovesendiz, Cide de Leon
> > = Unisco Godinez des Asturias
> > 16. Hermigio Abunazar de Leon
> > = Vivili Trutesendiz
> > 17. Adosinda (dau)
> > = Pelaio Gutierriz da Silva
> > 18. Fernao Paes da Cunha, Senor de Tabua, he had a brother, Guterre
> > Paes [Aldarete] da Silva, governor of Portugal 1082, see LINE
> > = Mor Uzbertiz
> > 19. Lourenco Fernandes, Senor de Tabua
> > = Sancha Lourence de Maceira
> > 20. Mor Lourenco da Cunha
> > = Ourigo da Nobrega
> > 21. Maria Ouriguez
> > = Pero Rodriguez de Cambra
> > 22. Martim Pires de Alvim, Senhor da Honra de Alvim, d1334
> > = Margarida Pires Ribeiro
> > 23. Joao Pires de Alvim, Senhor da Honra de Alvim
> > = Branca Pires Coelho
> > 24. Leonor Anes de Alvim
> > = Nunio Alvarez Pereira
> > 25. Beatriz Pereira (d1420)
> > = Alfonso de Braganza
> > 26. Isabel de Braganza (1402-1465)
> > = Juan de Aviz
> > 27. Isabel de Aviz, Infanta of Portugal (1428-1496)
> > = Juan de Castile
> > 28. Isabella I, Queen of Castile (1451-1504)
> > = Fernando
> > 29. Juana "La Loca" ["Mad Joan"]
> > = Philip of Hapsburg
> > etc
> > ancestors of Queen Victoria
> > descent to Queen Elizabeth
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> > LINE 2A:
> > 01. Mohammed "The Prophet of Islam", d632
> > = Kadidja, dau of Khuwaylid
> > 02. Kalthum (dau)
> > = Utayba, son of Abu Lahab
> > 03. dau [or dau of Marwan [& wife Aisha], son of Hakim, son of
> > Abu-el-Asis]
> > = Yazid II, Caliph 720-724, son of Abd al-Malik, Caliph 685-705
> > 04. Hisham, Caliph, in Syria, 724-743
> > 05. Muawiyah d743
> > 06. Abd er-Rahman I, Emir of Spain, d788
> > 07. Hisham I, Emir of Spain, d796
> > 08. Hakam I, Emir, d822
> > 09. Abd-er-Rahman II, Emir, d852
> > 10. Muhammed I, Caliph, in Spain, d886
> > 11. Abdallah I, Emir of Spain 848-912
> > = Onega Fortunez
> > 12. Zayd [ibn Abdallah]
> > 13. Zaydan
> > 14. Zaira
> > = Lovesendo, son of Fethe, son of Abeth al-Hasani, son of the
> > Idrissid, al-Hasan al-Hajjam, son of Muhammed, son of al-Kassim, son
> > of Idris II (792-828), son of Idris I (d792), son of Abdullah, son of
> > al-Hasan al-Muthanna, son of al-Hasan (625-670), whose mother was
> > Fatima, dau of Mohammed "The Prophet of Islam"
> > 15. Abu-Nazir Lovesendiz de Leon
> > = Unisco Godinez des Asturies
> > 16. Hermigio Abunazar de Leon
> > = Vivili Trutesendiz
> > 17. Adosinda (dau)
> > = Pelaio Gutierriz da Silva
> > 18. Guterre Paes [Aldarete] da Silva, governor of Portugal 1082
> > (1030-1110), his bro was Fernao Paes da Cunha, Senor de Tabua, see [#
> > 18] LINE-1
> > 19. Pelaio Gutierriz da Silva, Senhor de Froilao (1061-1141)
> > = Urraca Rabaldiz de Ribeiradio [his 2nd =]
> > 20. Gomez Paes da Silva, Senhor da Honra e Torre de Silva (1131)
> > = Urraca Nunes Velho
> > 21. Pelaio Gomez Bugalho da Silva, Senhor da Honra e Torre de Silva
> > (1167-1258)
> > = Maria Fernandez de Zobra
> > 22. Gomez Paes Bugalho da Silva, Senhor da Honora e Torre de Silva
> > = Mecia Martins Dade
> > 23. Joao Gomez da Silva, Senhor da Honora e Torre de Silva
> > 24. Ayres Gomez o Grande da Silva, Senhor da Honora e Torre de Silva
> > = Urraca Mendes Tenorio [his 2nd =]
> > 25. Alonso de Silva, Senor de Barcience (1370-1430)
> > = Guiomar de Menezes
> > 26. Juan de Silva, Conde de Cifuentes
> > = Ines de Ribera
> > 27. Francisca de Silva
> > = Honorato de Mendoza
> > 28. Garcia de Mendoza
> > = Isabel Briceno
> > 29. Maria de Mendoza
> > = Wratislaw von Pernstein
> > 30. Polyxena (1566-1642)
> > = Zdenko Adalbert Lobkowicz
> > 31. Wenzel Franz Lobkowicz (1609-1677)
> > = Augusta Sophia von Sulzbach
> > 32. Ferdinand Augustus Leopold, Baron von Lobkowicz (1655-1715)
> > 33. Maria Ludovika
> > = Anselm Franz von Thurn & Taxis
> > 34. Marie-Augusta (1706-1756)
> > = Karl Alexander von Wurttemberg
> > 35. Friedrich II Eugen, Duke of Wurttemberg, d1797
> > = Dorothea von Hohenzollern
> > 36. Ludwig, Duke of Wurttemberg, d1817
> > = Henriette of Nassau-Weilburg
> > 37. Alexander, Duke of Teck, d1885
> > = Claudine Rhedey
> > 38. Francis, Duke of Teck, d1900
> > = Marie Adelaide of Britain
> > 39. Mary of Teck (1867-1953)
> > = George V, King of Britain
> > 40. George VI Albert, King of Britain
> > 41. Elizabeth II, Queen
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> > LINE 2B:
> > 01. Mohammed "The Prophet of Islam", d632
> > 02. Fatima
> > = Ali [ibn abu-Talib], Caliph [in Iraq] 656-661
> > 03. Hasan (625-670)
> > 04. al-Hasan al-Muthanna
> > 05. Abdullah
> > 06. Idris I (d792)
> > 07. Idris II, 792-828
> > 08. al-Kassim
> > 09. Muhammed
> > 10. al-Hasan al-Hajjam
> > 11. Abeth al-Hasani
> > 12. Fethe
> > 13. Lovesendo
> > = Zaira, see generation # 14, Line-2A (above)
> > 14. Abu-Nazir Lovesendiz de Leon, # 15 generation in Line-2A (above)
> > see Line 2A (above)
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> > LINE 3:
> > 01. Mohammed "The Prophet of Islam", d632
> > 02. Fatima (dau)
> > = Ali [ibn abu-Talib], Caliph [in Iraq] 656-661
> > 03. Al-Husein (626-680), Imam of the Shi'ites, Iraq
> > 04. Ali Zain al-Abidin (653-713), imam in Iraq
> > 05. Mohammed al-Bakhir (681-733), imam in Iraq
> > 06. Djafar al-Sadikh (708-765), imam in Iraq
> > 07. Ishmael ibn Gafar (736-760)
> > 08. Mohammed [ibn Ishmael]
> > 09. Ishmael
> > 10. Ahmed [ibn Ishmael]
> > 11. Obeidallah al-Mahdi (846-934), Caliph, in Egypt
> > 12. Mohammed al-Khaim (873-946), Caliph
> > 13. Ishmael al-Munsur (901-952), Caliph, in Egypt
> > 14. Dihja (dau)
> > = Qaris [Kharis] ibn Abbad, khadi in Seville, Spain
> > 15. Ishmael [ibn Qaris], khadi in Seville
> > 16. Mohammed I abul-Khasim (980-1042), hachib of Seville
> > 17. Abbad al-Mutadid (1010-1069), "Emir of Spain"
> > 18. Mohammed II [al-Mutamid, ? bro of # 17?] (1040-1095), Emir of
> > Seville
> > 19. Zayda (dau)
> > = Alfonso VI, King of Castile
> > 20. Sancha
> > = Rodrigo "El Franco" Gonsalez de Lara
> > 21. Rodrigo Rodriguez de Lara
> > = Garcia de Azagra
> > 22. Sancha de Lara
> > = Gonzalo [II] Ruiz Giron (d1234)
> > 23. Maria Gonzalez Ruiz
> > = Guillen Perez de Guzman
> > 24. Maria (d1262)
> > = Alfonso IX, King of Castile
> > 25. Beatrix
> > = Affonso III, King of Portugal
> > 26. Dionisiso, King of Portugal, d1325
> > = Isabel of Aragon
> > 27. Affonso IV, King of Portugal, d1357
> > 28. Maria (1313-1357)
> > = Alfonso IX, King of Castile
> > 29. Pedro "The Cruel", King of Castile, d1368
> > 30. Isabelle (1355-1394)
> > = Edmund, Duke of York, England
> > 31. Richard, Earl of Cambridge, d1415
> > = Anne Mortimer, heiress of the Clarence line
> > 32. Richard, Duke of York
> > = Cecily Neville
> > 33. Edward IV, King of England 1461-1483
> > etc
> > descent to Queen Elizabeth
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> > LINE 4:
> > 01. Mohammed "The Prophet of Islam", d632
> > 02. Fatimah
> > = Ali
> > 03. Hasan (d670)
> > = Zhadah Kandaria
> > 04. Husein
> > 05. Zohra "al-Lakhmi"
> > = Abu Farisi, descended from ancient Arabic Royalty and the early
> > kings of Yemen
> > 06. Na'im al-Lakhmi
> > 07. Na'im al-Lakhmi
> > 08. Ittaf (fl. 742)
> > 09. Amir
> > 10. Aslan
> > 11. Amir
> > 12. Abbad
> > 13. Qarais
> > 14. Ishmael, Iman of Seville
> > 15. Kadi Abul-Kasim, aka Muhammad I (d1042)
> > 16. Abu Amir Abbad, aka Muhammad al-Mu'tamid (d1068)
> > 17. Abul-Kasim Muhammad [ibn Abbad al Mu'tamid] (d1095), Emir of
> > Seville
> > = I'tamid
> > 18. Zaida (1075-1107), bapt & renamed Isabel
> > =(1098) Alfonso VI, King of Castile-Leon
> > etc.
> > descent to Queen Elizabeth
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> > LINE 5:
> > 01. Mohammed "The Prophet of Islam", d632
> > 02. Kalthum
> > = Utayba, son of Abu Lahab
> > 03. dau [or dau of Marwan [& wife Aisha], son of Hakim, son of
> > Abu-el-Asis]
> > = Abd al-Malik
> > 04. Abdul Yazid al-Wallid
> > = Egilom, dau of Rodrigo de Balthes, a Visi-Gothic Spanish prince
> > 05. Aisha
> > = Fortun ibn Cassio
> > 06. Muza ibn Fortun, governor of Saragoza, d788
> > 07. Muza ibn Muza, governor of Saragoza, d863
> > = Assona Iniguez de Pampelune
> > 08. Lope [ibn Musa ibn Musa], gov of Saragoza (875)
> > = Ayab al Bulatiya
> > 09. Auria [Aurea]
> > = Fortun of Pampelune
> > 10. Onega
> > = Aznar Sanchez de Larraun [son of Sancho Garces of Navarre &
> > Leogundis Ordonez de Asturias] [her 2nd =]
> > 12. Toda
> > = Sancho I Garces, King of Pamplona [& Navarre], d925
> > 13. Garcia II Sanches, King of Navarre
> > etc
> > descent to Queen Elizabeth
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> > compiled by David Hughes,
> > comments welcome
> >
> >
> >
>

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