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From: "Joyce Cooper Walker" <>
Subject: Re: [ARIZARD-L] Spence - Bernie/Bill
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 09:55:11 -0600
References: <F227MDBfTPQWKtUwVy20001c11c@hotmail.com>


Hi Bernie and Bill......Dont have my notes in front of me, but I think the
father of the Spence boys was Joseph. The Spence and the Grills both came
from Knox Ct Tn before coming to Mo....Will look it and and let you know for
sure...


Joyce


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Blevins" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [ARIZARD-L] Spence - Bernie


> Bernie,
> My Great Grandmother, Hulda Cox Grills 1853 - 1925 was a sister to Susan Y
> Grills who married James Spence. She was married to a Spence the first
time
> (Not sure what his name was) and had one child Margaret "Maggie" Spence
who
> married Daniel Frankie Franks. She later married William Curtis Pitts,
and
> had two children, Hulda Arvella , Married John Jink Helm, who was my
> grandmother, and Laura who married Elmer Webb.
>
> My Aunt Maggie was born ca 1883...and my grandmother, born 09 Feb 1891,
was
> the older of the two by William C. Pitts . Huldah Cox Grills was the
> Daughter of William D. Grills and Huldah Julian. They came to Izard County
> from Mo. Sometime in the 1850's. I have often surmised that the Spence
> Family was also from the same area in MO. and the two families were old
time
> acquaintances.
>
>
>
>
>
> " We don't fully understand who we are - until we know the roots from
which
> we came."
>
>
>
> >From: "Bernie Moore-Knowles" <>
> >Reply-To:
> >To:
> >Subject: [ARIZARD-L] Spence - Bill
> >Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 20:39:32 -0700
> >
> >Bill
> >
> >Probably Isaac and Amanda Spence weren't the parents of James SPence
> >(b1840)........Betty Mc's source says that they didn't marry until 1870.
> >
> >BUT.......
> >
> >I went browsing in the 1880 census for potential siblings to James D.
> >Spence.......just looking for those born in North Carolina.
> >
> >This R. D. Spence, below in Conway Co.? A father, perhaps? Uncle?
> >
> >1880 Census Place: Lick Mountain, Conway, Arkansas
> > Source: FHL Film 1254041 National Archives Film T9-0041 Page 351A
> > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
> >R. D. SPENCE Self M M W 63 NC
> > Occ: Farmer Fa: NC Mo: NC
> >Elizabeth SPENCE Wife F M W 50 TN
> > Occ: Keeping House Fa: KY Mo: KY
> >Ellen SPENCE Dau F S W 15 AR
> > Occ: At Home Fa: NC Mo: TN
> >John W. SPENCE Son M S W 11 AR
> > Fa: NC Mo: TN
> >Pelina J. WILLIAMS GDau F S W 4 AR
> > Fa: AR Mo: AR
> >
> >1880 Census Place: Lick Mountain, Conway, Arkansas
> > Source: FHL Film 1254041 National Archives Film T9-0041 Page 351B
> > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
> >William SPENCE Self M M W 19 AR
> > Occ: Farmer Fa: NC Mo: TN
> >Anna SPENCE Wife F M W 15 AR
> > Occ: Keeping House Fa: NC Mo: TN
> >Jackson BRINTZ Other M M W 22 AR
> > Occ: Works On Farm Fa: --- Mo: ---
> >
> >Note: There were others in Conway Co., just not in the Lick Mountain
> >Township. Need them?
> >
> >And of course, the one that you did know of.......James' brother William
A.
> >Spence and his wife, Emily Grills:
> >
> >1880 Census Place: La Crosse, Izard, Arkansas
> > Source: FHL Film 1254047 National Archives Film T9-0047 Page 383D
> > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
> >William A. SPENCE Self M M W 42 NC
> > Occ: Farmer Fa: NC Mo: NC
> >Emmala C. SPENCE Wife F M W 43 TN
> > Occ: Keeping House Fa: TN Mo: TN
> >Harriet J. SPENCE Dau F S W 17 MO
> > Occ: At Home Fa: NC Mo: TN
> >Martha T. SPENCE Dau F S W 14 AR
> > Occ: At Home Fa: NC Mo: TN
> >J. Thomas SPENCE Son M S W 10 AR
> > Occ: Works On Farm Fa: NC Mo: TN
> >James A. SPENCE Son M S W 7 AR
> > Fa: NC Mo: TN
> >Wm. Elliott SPENCE Son M S W 9M AR
> > Fa: NC Mo: TN
> >
> >And James D. Spence and family:
> >
> >1880 Census Place: Jefferson, Independence, Arkansas
> > Source: FHL Film 1254047 National Archives Film T9-0047 Page 124B
> > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
> >James D. SPENCE Self M M W 40 NC
> > Occ: Farmer Fa: NC Mo: NC
> >Susan Y. SPENCE Wife F M W 35 MO
> > Occ: Keeping House Fa: TN Mo: TN
> >Laura M. SPENCE Dau F S W 13 AR
> > Fa: NC Mo: MO
> >William J. SPENCE Son M S W 11 AR
> > Fa: NC Mo: MO
> >Emma F. SPENCE Dau F S W 9 AR
> > Fa: NC Mo: MO
> >John F. SPENCE Son M S W 6 AR
> > Fa: NC Mo: MO
> >James D. SPENCE Son M S W 3 AR
> > Fa: NC Mo: MO
> >
> >Bill, now who was the Spence brother that married Hulda Cox Grills?
> >Happen
> >to know?
> >
> >Well, looking further.......seems to be Spences in Randolph Co. with
North
> >Carolina birth places:
> >
> >1880 Census Place: Little Black, Randolph, Arkansas
> > Source: FHL Film 1254055 National Archives Film T9-0055 Page 46B
> > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
> >Daniel SPENCE Self M M W 60 NC
> > Occ: Farmer Fa: NC Mo: NC
> >Ema J. SPENCE Wife F M W 44 TN
> > Occ: Housekeeper Fa: NC Mo: NC
> >Eliza J. SPENCE Dau F S W 14 AR
> > Occ: Housekeeper Fa: NC Mo: TN
> >Richard H. L. SPENCE Son M S W 12 AR
> > Occ: Farmer Fa: NC Mo: TN
> >Roda A. E. SPENCE Dau F S W 9 AR
> > Fa: NC Mo: TN
> >Daniel B. SPENCE Son M S W 6 AR
> > Fa: NC Mo: TN
> >
> >Does that help you any?
> >
> >
> >
> >Bernie Moore-Knowles
> >Phoenix, Arizona
> >
> >"I have Indian blood in me. I have just enough White blood for you to
> >question my honesty." ........Will Rogers
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Bill Blevins" <>
> >To: <>
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 7:44 PM
> >Subject: Unidentified subject!
> >
> >
> > > Betty Mc.
> > >
> > > Is Isaac Spence and Amanda Tate according to your source the parents
of
> > > James Spence. Do you have other siblings of James Spence and info on
> >them.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > > Bill Blevins
> > >
> > > " We don't fully understand who we are - until we know the roots from
> >which
> > > we came."
> > >
> > >
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