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From: "Bernie Moore-Knowles" <>
Subject: Re: [ARIZARD-L] J. T., Mary Lula, Virgil and Indiana
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 13:01:06 -0700
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Well, there you go, Joyce! Between Vera and Marilyn, I would say that you
have a mystery solved.

J. T. Speaks and he was born circa 1871?

Then, maybe he was John Speaks........son of Thomas Asbury Speak and Nancy
Brockman?

I don't believe that I have ever seen a Brockman researcher subscribed to
the List. Anyone know anything additionally about this couple and/or their
children?

I have that this John Speak was born in 1870........so, pretty darned close,
I'd say.

This List is so good.

Oh Marilyn? Was Indiana a Sisk or a Shelton?

Bernie Moore-Knowles
Phoenix, Arizona

"I have Indian blood in me. I have just enough White blood for you to
question my honesty." ........Will Rogers

----- Original Message -----
From: "Vera Reeves" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 12:20 PM
Subject: [ARIZARD-L] Speaks - Marilyn


> > I know that Virgil died in 1926 but the others I don't know have looked
> for
> > death date for Indiana for years but haven't found anything, she is
buried
> > at Big Flat but just a stone with her name. They have her last name
wrong
> on
> > this, it was Shelton not Sisk. I think that Mary Lula was buried at Big
> Flat
> > too as that was where they lived and her children by Virgil are buried
> > there. Marilyn
>
> Could Indiana have married before ?
>
> Big Flat 1900 shows her still living
> m. 34 yrs had 11 children 4 living
> looks like she was born in Oct 185?
> hard to read age is 48
> no children living with them
>
> didn't see them in 1910 Big Flat
> doesn't mean they weren't there
>
> 1920 census Big Flat
> Virgil 69
> Mary L. 49
> Virgie M. 15 dau
> Thomas J. 11 son
>
> Didn't see her in 1930
> big Flat
> doesn't mean she wasn't there
>
> Virgie Lawrence 16
> m. Nov 25, 1920 Stone County
> Columbus C. Ramsey 21
>
> of coarse you knew that
>
> the cemetery shows him as C. L.
>
> Arkansas Death Record Index
> Lawrence, Virgil M.
> d. Baxter County 11-18-1926
>
> I looked for Mary L. up to 1948
> in the ADRI and didn't find her
>
> The update I have for Big Flat Cemetery doesn't show a death date for him
I
> wonder why ?
>
> Vera
>
>
>
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