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From: Beth Cooper <>
Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] James Gang --- Beth
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 06:33:18 -0800 (PST)


Vera, the last I heard from any of those James
researchers for my America Elizabeth Alexander Johnson's
Mother's grandmother was that there is still the major feud
in that group of researchers-----so personally, I am not saying
a word about what little bite I know about the Alexander line
Freeman & James connection until I know for certain and have
more proof of who they were.

The one lady who I really believe is correct, has documented the
family that I think our group actually descends from pretty carefully
back in IL and it really does look to me like we are not connected to
the "outlaw" Jesse James. But like I said before, I sure don't want to
get in the middle of that debate without more concrete info on who
my America's great grandmother actually was and how she was connected
to those other James families living in Douglas Co., MO.

Did you have any more encounters "of the outer dimension" with
that bunch? I know the story about Jesse J. being seen in southern
MO after some of the Alexander girls lived in AR but I suspect that
to have been mistaken. It may very well have been their Mother's relative
but I don't believe he was the "outlaw". However, I do not at all dispute
the stories that particularly in the mountainous areas of Baxter Co., AR
along the White River that there were families who owned land with
caves where the "outlaw" Jesse J. did hideout when doing his disappearring
acts. There is one pretty good account that I know about ----but that whole
family was so secretative and that they left Baxter and moved to the coastal
areas of Texas and never lived on land again-----makes you wonder what
else was going on or had gone on in Baxter & Stone before they left. Would love to
talk to our dear "Peggy T." again? Wonder if anyone, Bernie included of course
ever heard from her? She moved from Tulsa to TX and then she quit the list so
I do hope she is still around and doing some research.

Vera, this does remind me, I have some marriage info that you may or may not
have about the Alexander girls, will post in just a minute.
Glad to see you still interested in this crazy bunch but it is sure too complicated
for me---I'm still trying to identify the siblings of America's Mother and Father
to be certain I haven't missed anyone. And the collaborators that could be seem to
either have conflicting or more numerous siblings than I can verify so I'm still stumped
on that bunch. My grandmother's stories, thou wonderful and colorful, had lots of incorrect
or incomplete info in them. What I have found was that many of the Uncles she remembered
in one family acturally turned out to be in the other side of the family's group of Uncles so
it always makes me double check what I think may be true (from the story). It's a work in
progress but it is so confusing, I don't seem to have the concentration to stay with it very
long until I'm so disgusted I can't see straight with all the conflicting info.

Will send those marriages now.
Thanks for you interest, Vera.
Beth



Beth,

Did you ever learn more about "your" Jesse James ?
How he died and that he wasn't part of the James gang?

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> Source: Rocky Mountain News (Denver, CO); Date: May 21, 1890
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> REMNANTS OF THE GANG.
> Some of Jesse James' Band Captured in Wisconsin.
> Special to The News.
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> Jefferson, Wis., May 20. -- Three men said to be members of the once noted
> Jesse James gang, were handed over to the Missouri officers by local
> authorities yesterday. A week ago information was received here that the
> authorities of Douglas county, Missouri, wanted three men on a charge of
> murder and of robbing the Douglas county treasury at Ava of $7,000. May
> 14 Deputy Sheriff Herman Gralwie, at Watertown, identified and arrested a
> man giving the name of F. S. Berry on the description furnished him from
> Missouri. The next day two other men arrived on a train from the south
> and inquired for the man who had been locked up, and were promptly taken
> in. The officers in pursuit were upon the same train as the last two
> arrested, but neither party was aware of the identity of their fellow
> travelers. Sheriff Lyon of Douglas county arrived yesterday, recognized
> his men at once, and took them back to Missouri to-day. The report that
> the criminals were members
> of the old Jesse Jam!
> es gang of murderers, although freely circulated, is not given full
> credence, as the oldest of the men is less than 40 years of age, and the
> youngest not over 25. Their names are Scott, Officer and Harlow. Each
> carried a complete kit of burglar's tools and weapons.
>
> Source: The Olean Democrat (Olean, NY); Date: May 22, 1890; Page: 1
>
> The Jesse James Gang.
> Madison, Wis., May 21. -- Three members of the Jesse James gang are now
> under arrest at Jefferson, in this state, and officers from Missouri are
> in the city with requisitions for their return to Missouri. The names of
> the prisoners are said to be J. M. Officer, alias William Harlow, T. W.
> Berry and George Scott. All were heavily armed, having revolvers and
> Winchesters, and a kit of burglar's tools. The men broke jail in Douglas
> county, Missouri, some time ago. It is said they will be held for murder.
>
> Source: The Daily Inter Ocean (Chicago, IL); Date: June 07, 1890; Page: 2
>
> ESCAPE OF NINE CRIMINALS
> Madison, Wis., June 6. -- Special Telegram. -- J. M. Officer, George
> Scott, T. H. Perry, the remainder of the Jesse James gang, captured at
> Jefferson, Mo., May 19, and then taken to Douglas County, Missouri, broke
> jail and escaped to-day with six other prisoners. They are wanted for
> murder, burglaries, and numerous other offenses. A large reward is
> offered for their capture.
>
> (These citations were found at 19th Century U. S. Newspapers at
> http://infotrac.galegroup.com )
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> Rhonda Johnson
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