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From: "Don Ott" <>
Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Help Reading WW I Draft Record.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 20:08:12 -0500
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Billie, Beth Cooper and Al Kirkland,
Thanks for all the help, We are getting closer, I now believe Isaac
Newton Holiday who is listed in the Springfield National Cem., is Isaac
Newton Holiday Jr., only his death date is listed on his stone, 2 Jul 1934.
Birth is unknown, if I am right that would be 21 Aug 1897, West Plains,
Howell, MO.. I took that from his WW I Registration.
As to his father, Isaac Newton Holiday Sr. b. Dec 1849 IL, I believe he
died ca 1910. His wife Elizabeth is listed in Greene Co. MO. for the 1910
Census as a widow and she has her son Newton (Isaac Newton Holiday Jr.) with
her, he is 12. For the 1920 Census she is listed in the household of her
daughter and son-in-law, George Zacharia Hitchcock and Sarah E., her
daughter in Greene Co. MO.
Elizabeth Jane (Allen) Holiday died 27 Dec 1922 in Springfield, Greene,
MO.
Still have many mysteries about Isaac Newton Holiday Jr., and his
family. Expect he may have been in WW I, have not found that, That probably
is how he got a place in the National Cemetery. He died early if the stone
listing 2 Jul 1934 is actually his. Really appreciate all the help, I know
a lot more about this family than I did a week ago.
Thanks again to all.
Appreciate the Census reports sent by Al Kirkland, Al those were of the
Isaac born in SC, have not tied them in yet,
Appreciate the Census report sent by Beth Cooper, Beth I do not know
those folks yet. However I do not believe that Sarah and Rosalie are a
sister to Lyota Thrasher?. Note that Sarah and Rosalie's parents were born
in Iowa and Missouri and that Lyota's parents were both born in IL.

Don

----- Original Message -----
From: "Billie Erin Walsh" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Help Reading WW I Draft Record.


>I didn't really think they were the family you were looking for. It
> seems that some of your family is as hard to locate as mine. You know
> where they should be but they aren't. Probably thought the census taker
> was a "revenuer" and hid out. *<]:oD
>
> I had another thought. I retried with just HOLIDAY in Mo in 1920. Came
> back with 28 results ranging in age from 20 to 78 [ seems odd there are
> none younger than 20 ???]. None that looked like obvious misspellings of
> Isaac or Newton or Julia [ wrong wife - should read closer ]. There is
> one "Lillie HOLLIDAY" but she is only five living with her grandmother
> Laura Rubin (sp). [ Anyone know any other nicknames for either Frances
> or Lillian? ]
>
> Anything else got any ideas what else to try??
>
>
> Don Ott wrote:
>> Billie
>> Thanks so much for all your help. The 1920 PA Holidays are in fact the
>> same
>> family but not the one I am looking for. The one I am searching for
>> probably
>> was either in Jackson or Greene County Missouri but the computer that
>> reads
>> census data has either read the spelling of the name incorrectly or the
>> census taker wrote it down wrong. It is just a matter of stumbling across
>> the right listing. I have even tried the soundex method and have not been
>> able to locate them. Appreciate your help.
>> Don
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Billie Erin Walsh" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 10:10 AM
>> Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Help Reading WW I Draft Record.
>>
>>
>>
>>> There's a "Newton HOLIDAY" in Pennsylvania in the 1920 Census.
>>>
>>> Newton Holiday
>>> Genetta Wife
>>> Harold Brother
>>> Claire Son (?)
>>>
>>> All born in Penn.
>>>
>>> I searched for:
>>> Isaac Holiday
>>> Newton Holiday
>>> Isaac Holliday
>>> Newton Holliday
>>> I Holliday
>>> I Holiday
>>> N Holliday
>>> N Holiday
>>> IN Holliday
>>> IN Holiday
>>> Julia Holiday
>>> Julia Holliday
>>>
>>> I couldn't think of any other names to try. I searched on Heritage Quest
>>> with all years and states.
>>>
>>> Don Ott wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a subscription to Ancestry but still have not been able to find
>>>> the
>>>> 1920 Census for Isaac Newton Holiday.
>>>> Don
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: <>
>>>> To: <>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 12:15 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Help Reading WW I Draft Record.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I have a subscription to Ancestry.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Vaughn
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Don Ott" <>
>>>>> To:
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 9:10:20 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Help Reading WW I Draft Record.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have not been able to locate the 1920 Census. Where did you find
>>>>> that?
>>>>> Must be a different spelling of the Name?
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Don
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: <>
>>>>> To: <>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 5:03 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ARIZARD] Help Reading WW I Draft Record.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Something else jumped out when I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Don,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is hard to read but I think it is Francis Lillian Holiday. The
>>>>>> only
>>>>>> reason I say that is because in the 1920 census they have a daughter
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the first name of Lillian, 5 years old.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Don Ott" <>
>>>>>> To:
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 12:36:22 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada
>>>>>> Pacific
>>>>>> Subject: [ARIZARD] Help Reading WW I Draft Record.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been working on my Holiday line and on the WW I Draft Record
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> Isaac Newton Holiday, b. 21 Aug 1897 in West Plains, Howell,
>>>>>> Missouri,
>>>>>> he
>>>>>> registers in Kansas City MO. He was a Rail Road worker. His Draft
>>>>>> Registration shows that he has a wife (Frances Lethia ____) or
>>>>>> something
>>>>>> like that. Can anyone who has access to these Draft Registrations
>>>>>> help
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> spell the wife's name please? In the 1930 Census, Springfield,
>>>>>> Greene,
>>>>>> Missouri he is married to Julia O. b. 1899 MO for five years which
>>>>>> must
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> a second marriage. Any help appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Don
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