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From: Nena Smothers <>
Subject: [ASHBY] Mary Butler & Thomas W Ashby family/Ala/MS
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:15:57 +0000
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HELP!!  :O)  Anyone working or have any Alabama or Mississippi Ashby's???
TRYING TO FIND THIS FELLA'S FOLKS.
HERE'S WHAT I HAVE SO FAR, THANKS TO HOLLY'S NICE SITE LOOKS LIKE THOMAS DID HAVE MORE KIDS BUT AM IN TOUCH WITH A GAL FROM HIS DAUGHTER
MARTHA AND JUST TRYING TO HELP HER FIND HIS PARENTS AND TO SEE IF THIS FELLA GOES TO cAPT tHOMAS OR tHOMAS AND mCcULLOUGH.

ANyONE WHO CAN ADD ANY KIND OF TIDBIT TO HELP IS GREATLY APPRECITED, THANKS kINDLY, NENA
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Thomas and Mary might had more kids than just Martha and Harriett.
Martha and Harriett listed with pretty good dob's and places so think this is the right family.
Adolphus says his mother born AL and Dad in MS.
Now one thing you realize is we may never find Martha or Hariett's husband's.......even thou they did not marry they could have had kids w/an Ashby cuz but only dna would prove that. I meant to ask you, how do you know for sure they did not marry.
1910 Martha says she is a widow but again often women said that even if they never md too.
I need to find some more census we are missing like 1850 AND 1900 would be nice.
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm..cgi?op=GET&db=hollyhofmann&id=I38339

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From:
Thomas W ASHBY B 1822 Alabama D 1870-80
+Mary Ann BUTLER jAN 24 1842 Winston Co Ala
 b 1824 Alabama
dau/o Ephriam Butler and Maria Brown.
 * alive 1880

1860 U.S. Federal Census Alabama, Walker Co. Western Division, p 53/819A, PO Jasper, #362
Ashby, Thos W 28 farm labor, pe $140, Al
 , Mary Ann   26 Al
 , Ephraim    15 farm labor, in school, Ms
 , July Ann   13 in school, Al
 , Martha Ann 11 in school, Al **
 , Harriett    9 in school, Al **
 , John        7 Al
 , Mary        4 Al
 , Malinda     1 Al
NOTE: I believe Thomas & Mary Ann's ages recorded incorrectly since
she is older in later censuses cited, but it is poss older children are
not theirs...

WONDER IF THOMAS DIED IN WAR NOT ON 1870


1870 U.S. Federal Census Alabama, Franklin Co.
Page: Twp. 6, Range 15, p 5/502A, PO Pleasant Site, #39  THOMAS DEC'D
Ashby, Mary  40  $70 Ms can't read or write
, Martha   21 Ms can't read or write
, Harriett 19 Ms can't read or write
, John     16 Ms can't read or write
, Letha    10 Al can't read or write
, Margaret  8 Al
, William   5 Al
McCornell J W, m, 14, work on farm, pe $65, Al
Neighbors> Ephraim Butler*[Mary's dad]

NOTE: Pleasant Site is at the intersection of CR-90 & CR-15
Troy-Thorn Rd in NW Franklin Co. near the Mississippi state line.

1880 U.S. Federal Census Mississippi, Itawamba Co.Page: ED 69, First Supervisor's District, p 14/409B, #133 & #134 THOMAS DEC'D.
Ashbey, Mary 55, widow, Al, SC, SC
, Margarett 19, can't write, Al, Al, Al
Ashbey, Martha 26, single, Al, Al, Al
, Hariett 24, sister, single, Al, Al, Al
Neighbors Emalie Butler
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* Children Thomas W Ashby & Mary Butler-8
1. Ephraim ASHBY b 1844/1845 Mississippi
2. July Ann ASHBY b1846/1847 Alabama

**3. Martha Ann ASHBY b Mar 9 1848 Itawamba Co MS  [Alabama on census]
not married-5 kids
Children of Martha Ashby & unk b Ala are
 1Ozella Rosa Ashby b 16 Jun [May 17] 1872 Fulton Itawamba Co MS [Rosa was my grandmother]
Delma Alexander
   + Col Crockett David Clements 12-29-1895 Itawamba Co MS b June 1875 Ala son/o Leroy Clements & Mary Tubb

1880 United States Federal Census
about David Clements
Name: David Clements Home in 1880: Mount Hope, Lawrence, Alabama Age:5 Estimated birth year:   abt 1875 birthplace: Alabama
Relation to Head of Household:Son
Father's Name:Leroy Father's birthplace:     Alabama Mother's Name:Mary
Mother's birthplace: South Carolina
Marital Status:Single race:White
Gender: Male
Leroy Clements    38
Mary Clements     36
Luanna Clements   12
Amanda Clements    9
Jacob Clements     7
David Clements     5
Emily Clements     2

1900 Itawamba MS Census
Dave Clemmons 24 AL
Rosie         20
Ora            4
Lee (Samuel)   3
Cora            7/12
 
1910 Sabine Co. LA
Colonel D.Clements 34 AL
Rosa               30
Ora                13

Sam Lee            12
Cora               10
Rosett              5
Hiram               4
Raymond             2
 
1920 Sabine Co. LA Census
Dave Clements   44 AL
Rosie           40 MS
Ora             23 MS
Sam Lee         21 LA
Oscar           17 LA
Rosett          15 LA
Floriene (male) 13 LA
Raymon          11 LA
Delila           8 OK
Lois             6 LA
 
1930 Union Co. AR Smackover
Colonel D. 54
Rosia      50
Rosette W. 25
Florien J. (male) 23
Delilah H. 19
Lois E.    16
They are living next to their son Raymond.

 2Alice Serra Sara Ashby b 8 July 1874 Fulton Itawamba Co MS.

 3Hosea Ashby b 26 Jan 1878 Fulton Itawamba Co MS.

 5Oscar T Ashby b 5 May 1883 Fulton Itawamba Co. MS.

 4Rev Adolphus Ashby b 4 Nov 1880 Fulton Itawamba Co MS d Sep 7 1970 Blanchard La
 +Mattie Belle Bruce Mar 9 1910 Sabine Parish LA b Oct 31 1882 MS D Sep 9 1970 Shreveport LA
 [son of Martha Ashby and unk father b Ala]

Notes for Rev ADOLPHUS D. ASHBY:

Bio: A. D. Ashby, Sabine
Parish, Louisiana:
Submitted: by : Gaytha Carver Thompson; Source: History of Sabine Parish by
John G. Belisle, The Sabine Banner Press, 1912 (Page 278)

    Mr. Ashby is a member
of the Parish School Board from Ward Seven.  He was born in Itawamba County, Miss.,
and lived there until 18 years of age, receiving such education as the small
rural schools afforded, which was very limited.  He came to Sabine parish in
1899 and resided here ever since.  On March 9, 1910, he was married to Miss
Mattie Bruce. Mr. Ashby's principal occupation has been farming, but in 1910 he
entered the ministry of the Congregational Methodist church, with which denomination
he is prominently identified.  His chief regret is that he was unable to finish
his education.  In 1912 he was elected member of the Parish School Board and at
the organization of the new board he was elected chaplain of that body, being
the first man ever honored with that position.  Mr. Ashby has always been an
advocate of a modern educational system that would thoroughly fit the youths of
the parish for the battle of life and the attainment of a more ideal
citizenship, and his influence will be cast with all progressive movements for
the public wealth.  

Social Security Death Index about Adolphus Ashby Name:Adolphus Ashby SSN:439-54-5199 Last Residence:71009 Blanchard, Caddo, Louisiana, United States of America Born:4 Nov 1880 Died:Sep 1970 State(Year)SSN issued:Louisiana (1955)

1910 United States Federal Census about Adolphus Ashby
Name:Adolphus Ashby age in 1910:29
Estimated birth year:abt 1881
Birthplace: Mississippi Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place:Alabama
Mother's Name:Martha L
Mother's Birth Place:Alabama
Spouse's name:Mattie
Home in 1910: Police Jury Ward 7, Sabine, Louisiana Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender:Male
Household Members:Name Age
Adolphus Ashby   29 MS
Mattie Ashby     27 MS MS MS
Josephine W Ashby 8 dau 1902 LA MS MS
Jesus C Ashby     6 son 1904 LA MS MS
Ella M Ashby      4 dau 1906 LA MS MS
Willie F Ashby    3 son 1907 LA MS MS
ADolphus Ashby    1 1/12 1909 LA MS MS son
Martha L Ashby   62 mother Ala widowed **

1920 United States Federal Census about
ADolphus Ashby home
in 1920:Bayou San Miguel, Sabine, Louisiana Age: 38 years Estimated
birth year: abt 1882 Birthplace: Mississippi Relation to Head of House:
Head Spouse's name: Mattie
father's Birth Place: Mississippi
Mother's
Birth Place:Alabama Marital Status: Married race:White Sex:Male Home
owned:Own Able to read:Yes Able to Write:Yes Image:920
Household Members:Name Age
ADolphus Ashby   38
Mattie Ashby     36
Clarence J Ashby 16
Jesus
Eller M Ashby    14 Ella
William F Ashby  12 Willie
Andrew D Ashby   10 1910
Dalfus L Ashby    8 Adolphus 1912
Olen Ashby        6 1914
Alton Ashby       4 4/12 1916
Mattie L Ashby    2 3/12 1918
Oscar F Ashby       0/12
Marven D Allen   23
Josephine Allen  18 dau Ashby
Jenell M Allen    1 6/12

1930 United States Federal Census about A D Ashby
Name:A D Ashby [Adolphus Ashby Sr] Home in 1930:Middle Creek, Sabine, Louisiana
Estimated birth year:bt 1881 age:49
Birthplace:Mississippi Relation to Head of House:Head Spouse's name:Mattie Race:White
Household Members:Name Age
A D Ashby      49
Mattie Ashby   48
Willie Ashby   22 1908
Allen Ashby    17 1913
Alton Ashby    14 1916
Mattie L Ashby 12 1918
Francis Ashby  10 Oscar 1920
David Ashby     6 1924
Ima L Ashby     2 8/12 1928

Children Adolphus L Ashby Sr & Mattie Bruce-12
1Josephine W Ashby 1902 LA MS MS
2Jesus C Ashby 1904 LA MS MS
3Ella M Ashby 1906 LA MS MS
4Willie Ashby 1908
5Andrew D Ashby 1910
6Dalfus L Ashby 1912 Adolphus JR
7Allen Ashby 1913
8Alton Ashby 1916

9Mattie Lou ASHBY b 14 OCT 1917 Pleasant Hill LA d 10 Nov 2001 Blanchard
LA.
Notes for MATTIE LOU ASHBY:

Posted on 12 Nov, 2001: BLANCHARD, LA - Services
for Mattie Lou Ashby, 84, were held Tuesday, 13 Nov, 2001 at Blanchard Nazarene
Church. Officiating was
Alton Ashby, Jr., assisted by Rev. Joe Talhiem. Burial wasin Blanchard Cemetery.
Mrs. Ashby passed away 10 Nov, 2001 in Bossier
City, LA. She was
born in Pleasant Hill, LA
and was a lifelong resident of Blanchard,
LA. She was a retired Blanchard
librarian and served 32 months in the W.A.A.C. during WWII. She was preceded in
death by her parents, Rev. & Mrs. A.D. Ashby, six brothers & three
sisters. She is survived by her sister, Imogene Bertrand of Blanchard,
LA; brothers, O.F. (Pete) Ashby of Karnack, TX
& David Ashby, Sr. of Crowley,
LA; & a host of nieces and
nephews.
10Oscar Francis pete Ashby 1920 of Karnack, TX

11David Ashby 1924 LIVING

12Lydia Imogene ASHBY b 6 Nov 1927 Living
  +PAUL RALPH BERTRAND 19 Jul 1945 b 19 Sep 1922 Acadia Parish LA d 4 Mar 1998 Bossier City LA son of VELIA BERTRAND Sr and IDA SARVER.
Children  LYDIA ASHBY & PAUL BERTRAND: 4


i.    JANICE GAYLE BERTRAND
   +1 WINDEL PAUL BOULET Acadia Parish LA (Lic#35670)   +2 BILLY WAYNE BOLES Harrison Co TX (file#045878);                  ii.    SHERYL LYNN BERTRAND Blanchard
LA    +TIM DAVIS HARRIS III

iii.    GARY PAUL BERTRAND Blanchard
LA     + KARLA RENEE SCOTT

iv.    THOMAS DELEE BERTRAND, Blanchard LA    +TINA MARIE ALLEN Harrison Co TX (file#188618)
Notes for PAUL RALPH BERTRAND:

Paul served in the Fourth
Infantry Division, European Theater, World War II. He fought in the Battle of the Bulge,
1944. Wounded and later was "missing in action " for a period of
time. He was recipient of the Purple Heart on two separate occasion. Paul Bertrand
enlisted in the Infantry in June of 1943 and was wounded in December 1944
during the Battle
of the Bulge.  He returned to the Infantry after being in the hospital for 3
months.  Private Bertrand fought in the Aragon Forest, Luxembourg, in the
liberation of the Baston, and was again wounded. Bertrand received two Purple
Hearst and the Combat Infantryman's Badge.  After the war, the family moved to
Blanchard and has lived there ever since.  Paul was an Engineer Aide for the LA
Dept. of Transportation & Development. He was an expert/consultant of
pre-stressed concrete principles for highways and runways. Paul died 4 Mar
1998, Bossier City, LA Hospital of a stroke. Funeral held in Blanchard Church
of the Nazarene & interment in Old
Blanchard Cemetery,
Blanchard, LA.


Fr Bert-Imogene Ashby is my sister-in-law. She is with her daughter,
Gayle Boles Blanchard LA  since brother Paul Bertrand passed.

I know her brother, David Ashby, living near my home town Crowley LA. He is a great fellow.

Bert ‘n Biloxi MS Velia ‘Bert’ Bertrand Jr

Ret. USAF Biloxi MS 


**4. Harriett ASHBY b 1850 Walker Co Alabama
[dau of Thomas W Ashby & mary Butler]
  not married-5 kids
 >1son John W Ashby b 1876/1877 MS d 1940 Jonesboro buried Oaklawn Cem.
   +Nancy Nannie Gifford 1901 b 1879/1880 Alabama div
1910 U.S. Federal Census of Arkansas, Mississippi Co.Page: Big Lake Twp., p 334A, #1
Ashby, John W 33 mar 1x for 8yrs, Ms, NC, Al, timber cutter, renting
, Nannie 30 mar 1x for 8yrs 3 children 1 living Tn, Tn
, James L 7 Mo

1920 United States Federal Census
about John W Ashby
Name: John W Ashby Home in 1920: Buffalo, Craighead, Arkansas Age:45 years
Estimated birth year:abt 1875
Birthplace: Tennessee Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's name:Nannie
Father's Birth Place:United States of America
Mother's Birth Place: United States of America
Marital Status:Married Race:White
Sex:Male Home owned: Rent Able to read:Yes
Able to Write: Yes image: 405
John W Ashby     45
Nannie Ashby     45
James L Ashby    17
Imse Hutchins    14 female b MO
Clyde Hutchins   11
Robert Hutchins   6

 >2 son James L b 28 Jan 1902 Missouri
[buried Cuero TX]
 >3 daughters
   Eva Ashby
   Savannah Ashby +Lee Poindexter
   Della Ashby
[Sharon George grandmother]

1900
census for Dunklin Co. MO. Harriet is listed with daughter Savannah and
husband. Don't know where she is buried but Sharon seems to think
somewhere in SE MO. or NE Ark. as she and her children had lived there.
Sharon has not been able to find and record of her death.

5. John ASHBY b 1852/1853 Walker Co Alabama
6. Mary ASHBY b 1855/1856 Walker Co Alabama
7. Malinda ASHBY b 1858/1859 Walker Co Alabama

8. Margaret ASHBY b Dec 1853/1863 Mississippi
   +Jason H HARGETT ABT 1880 Itawamba Co Mississippi b Aug 1842 Georgia/Alabama
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1860 U.S. Federal Census Alabama, Walker Co. Western Division, p 53/819A, PO Jasper, #362
Ashby, Thos W 28 farm labor, pe $140, Al
 , Mary Ann   26 Al
 , Ephraim    15 farm labor, in school, Ms
 , July Ann   13 in school, Al
 , Martha Ann 11 in school, Al **
 , Harriett    9 in school, Al **
 , John        7 Al
 , Mary        4 Al
 , Malinda     1 Al
NOTE: I believe Thomas & Mary Ann's ages recorded incorrectly since
she is older in later censuses cited, but it is poss older children are
not theirs...

1870 U.S. Federal Census Alabama, Franklin Co.
Page: Twp. 6, Range 15, p 5/502A, PO Pleasant Site, #39
Ashby, Mary  40  $70 Ms can't read or write
, Martha   21 Ms can't read or write
, Harriett 19 Ms can't read or write
, John     16 Ms can't read or write
, Letha    10 Al can't read or write
, Margaret  8 Al
, William   5 Al
McCornell J W, m, 14, work on farm, pe $65, Al
Neighbors> Ephraim Butler*[Mary's dad]
NOTE: Pleasant Site is at the intersection of CR-90 & CR-15 Troy-Thorn Rd in NW Franklin Co. near the Mississippi state line.

1880 U.S. Federal Census Mississippi, Itawamba Co.Page: ED 69, First Supervisor's District, p 14/409B, #133 & #134
Ashbey, Mary 55, widow, Al, SC, SC
, Margarett 19, can't write, Al, Al, Al
Ashbey, Martha 26, single, Al, Al, Al
, Hariett 24, sister, single, Al, Al, Al
Neighbors Emalie Butler
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From:
Thomas W. Ashby b Ala
Mary Butler and Thomas Ashby was married 24 Jan
1842 in Winston Co. MS.dau/o Ephriam Butler and Maria Brown.




 



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