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From: "Carol Wood" <>
Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Which James Dodd??
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 09:26:49 +1000
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Hi Paddy,

I can't find either Mary Leicester or James Dodds arriving in Australia as
convicts. Only Leicester lady was on the Lady Juliana and her name was
Elizabeth or Isabella. Can't find the Britomart coming as a convict ship
either. Obviously Leicester must have been a married name, do you have her
maiden name?

The proof you have that your Ellen Dodds was the child of James and Mary
Dodds seems okay providing your g grandma Ellen lived to be 101 and she
gave these names on her marriage certificate as being the names of her
parents. Is it a NZ marriage or an Australian one?

There are quite a few people in Australia who "must have swum" and are not
recorded anywhere. A lot of them are Irish as Irish women convicts were
allowed to bring children with them but it was an informal arrangement and
in a lot of cases the children were not recorded as being on the ship. Also
the shipping records often say "and 35 in steerage" but never list the names
so it might always remain a mystery. Did the parents James and Mary die in
Australia or NZ?

Cheers,

Carol Wood
Brisbane Qld Australia
----- Original Message -----
From: "paddy cleary" <>
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Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Which James Dodd??


> Hi Carol
> Thank you for your reply and all the info. I think the James Dodds who
> arrived on the 'Norfolk' is not my Dodds. There is another Dodds operating
> in Sydney at the same time (even tho the Census says there was only the
> Norfolk character) and the other chap is the 'Britomart' one. He married
> Mary Leister and I feel I am sure they are the right ones for me because
> 'James ....and Mary ...produced Ellen Dodds in 1832 who was my ggrama
> buried
> in 1933 Auck. I have certs. for Ellen's marriage and death - isnt that
> proof
> enough or have I missed something? What I must do is find out about Mary
> Leister, - big mystery gal - she received 'rations' in 1821 Muster with
> George Leister and unnamed infant. Thanks for your help. Paddy Cleary,
> Karori nz.
>
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