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From: Paul Dutton <>
Subject: Re: [AUS-Koori] Re: McMullen or McLeod
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:58:42 +1000 (EST)
In-Reply-To: <003c01c22b21$22cbec60$7ee736cb@l4t3m1>


Lisa,

I think it's near Singleton, past Richmond Windsor
way.

Paul

--- LisAndom <> wrote: > Hello
Cheryl
> I believe that either one or both are Aboriginal.
> Would be great if you
> could ask at your next meeting.
> Do you know anything of Wilberforce is it still
> around?
> Thanks
> Lisa
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cheryl Goh" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 5:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [AUS-Koori] Re: McMullen or McLeod
>
>
> > Hello Lisa
> > Do you think one or both of these people to be
> Aboriginal? I don't know
> the
> > names, but I will take your email to our next
> meeting and ask there
> someone
> > may know the names.
> > Cheryl
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "LisAndom" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 5:08 PM
> > Subject: [AUS-Koori] Re: McMullen or McLeod
> >
> >
> > > Dear Cheryl
> > > My GG Grandmother Margaret Mcleod is listed as
> being baptised in the
> > parish
> > > of Portland and Pitt Town, County of Cook and
> Cumberland, NSW. 1847
> > > Her parents Donald McLeod and Catherine McMullen
> or Mcleod are listed as
> > > living in Wilberforce.
> > > Would you happen to know of the name McLeod or
> McMullen?
> > > Would you happen to know where Wilberforce is.
> > > Is that in Darug country?
> > > Is there a historical society or some one whom I
> could speak to
> regarding
> > > this name. Maybe a listing of early settlers
> living in the area in the
> > > 1840's?
> > > Your assitance would be greatly appreciated. I
> have read the Darug and
> > their
> > > neighbours to no avail
> > > Thanks
> > > Lisa
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Cheryl Goh" <>
> > > To: <>
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 5:31 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [AUS-Koori] Aboriginality
> > >
> > >
> > > > Please forgive my ignorance, I know many of
> the Traditional owners
> from
> > > > Tasmania have lost their rights however I
> don't understand the
> politics
> > of
> > > > the situation. I realise it seems to stem
> from 'proof' of descendancy
> > but
> > > > what kind of proof is needed and who needs it?
> > > > As a Darug woman I belong to an organisation
> that was created
> originally
> > > as
> > > > a family link up. We have nothing to do with
> the local land council
> > (and
> > > > they don't want to know us I might add), we
> have nothing from them
> > > > financially, spiritually or in any other way.
> We have regular
> meetings,
> > > > family reunions etc and even from time to time
> family fights (I know
> > this
> > > > might surprise some of you :-) ). I wonder if
> this might be a
> solution
> > to
> > > > those of you who are not being fairly
> represented, particularly those
> > > people
> > > > who are descended from Tasmanian peoples. I
> don't think anyone can
> stop
> > > you
> > > > from setting up your own organisation and this
> might just be the way
> to
> > > go.
> > > > Cheryl
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "nerreman" <>
> > > > To: <>
> > > > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 9:16 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [AUS-Koori] Aboriginality
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, I knew there would be a subject come
> up that would get me out
> > of
> > > > hibernation...and here it is.
> > > > > I went to see Gary Foley speak at Melbourne
> University the other
> night
> > > and
> > > > there was one single thing that he said that
> sat on my heart and has
> > > > continued to weigh heavy.... It was a plain
> and simple truth.
> > > > > No matter the Governement, Liberal, Labour,
> Democrat, National, in
> the
> > > > last thirty years.... We as Aboriginal people
> have made no headway.;..
> > > have
> > > > made no gains..... are no further advanced as
> a peoples, than we were
> > > thirty
> > > > years ago, and it is anticipated that this
> condition will never
> change.
> > > > > All so called improvements are "non
> aboriginal" ones and have done
> > > nothing
> > > > to improve our status as original Australians.
> They have only served
> to
> > > > "Whiten us" and aide in the hastening of the
> genocide that has been so
> > > > carefully planned.
> > > > > The Tasmanian Electoral Roll is a perfect
> example of this. Imagine
> the
> > > old
> > > > ones doing such a thing.... It is against
> everything we are and ever
> > have
> > > > been, for us to set ourselves against each
> other in such a way. Take
> > that
> > > > road if you choose peoples, but you are no
> aboriginal that i want to
> > know
> > > or
> > > > not the kind of Aboriginal that i want to be
> if you do.
> > > > > The thing that brought tears to my eyes was
> his statement that he
> was
> > > > tired, and that others he knows are tired,
> that it is futile, that
> > things
> > > > will never change. I was filled with the
> sadness that was flowing
> > through
> > > > the auditorium as his words were being spoken.
> > > > > He has echoed my thoughts, and to hear them
> spoken so succintly only
> > > > served to reinforce my resolve to continue to
> strive for the
> > preservation
> > > of
> > > > our culture and our spirituality and our need
> to be a sovereign
> people
> > in
> > > > our own right. ..
> > > > > Take heart taraba. You are not alone...
> > > > > Stand firm and strong
> > > > > Nerreman
> > > > > taraba <> wrote: Hi all
> well the rejection list
> for
> > > the
> > > > Tasmanian Aboriginal electoral role
> > > > > have been mailed out
> > > > > What a joke!
> > > > > As I expected I was one of those who were
> denounced.
> > > > > Any Aboriginal man or woman who was not
> genetically connected to the
> > > > > Islanders of early last century was
> registered was rejected.
>
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