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From: Patricia Jungwirth <>
Subject: Re:SCHOLER ENGLISH
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:23:34 +1100


Hi,

this looks like a little brickwall?

Charles Frederick? Scholer first married Elizabeth Sarah Corbett in about
1854 - was in the Avoca region, had a child or two, lost his wife and child
in about 1858 - and then married Honora English in 1865. Honora/Norah and
Charles then had 3? children in the Maryborough region: Honora, Charles
Patrick and then Michael?

Honora's entry to Victoria seems to be the main concern?

I have ancestors from the Maryborough region - and they got there from
England via South Australia - where I believe I may still find some living
distant cousins.

I expect you've had a look at the shipping indexes into South Australia?

There are a couple of items of interest here?

On the whole - although there is little evidence to support the claim - it
looks as though most of the Irish ENGLISH folk in Victoria came from
Tipperary not Limerick - I've ancestors from Limerick - and was recently
informed when querying the lack of info about Limerick on the LDS IGI -
that the local Limerick RC Bishop is not co-operating - boohoo..

The gap between the death of the first wife and the marriage of the second
wife is a little interesting?

Any idea what Charles was doing during this time??

Have you had a look at the Maryborough newspaper for the time of the
marriage of Charles and Hanora? I think?? there was a newspaper around at
that time - maybe Hanora/Charles get a mention?

I suspect that the place of birth on Hanora's death cert. is probab;y wrong?

A search of the indexes didn't indicate that Hanora had English family
members in Vic. - I gather you expect that Hanora came to Victoria as a
young adult on her own?

How about this for a theory - Hanora and family members perhaps came to
South Australia maybe a little earlier than her marriage - she met Charles
in South Australia - where he had been visitng relatives - love at first
sight - and a return to the Avoca Maryborough region?

Hanora found it easier to mention as her place of residence - her last home
in Ireland - rather than the temporary home in South Australia?


Anyhow - don't despair - something will turn up one day?


good luck
Robert





At 05:32 PM 14/02/01 +1100, you wrote:
>Hello All,
>
>I have been reading this list for a little while and would now like to
>post a question if I may, and ask for some help, of course :-).
>
>My problem is that I have a GGrandmother who arrived in Victoria about
>1863. I know this because she married a widower in 1865 and I have her
>marriage certificate from Chinemans Flat, Marybrough, Victoria.
>
>Her death certificate stated she lived for 45 years in Victoria and 20
>years in NSW.
>
>I have tried searching for her entry into Victoria without success. I
>and a professional researcher cannot find her entry into Victoria.
>Where do I go now?
>
>Do I give up and just accept the fact that she was in Melbourne in 1865
>for the marriage and leave it as that?
>
>Any advice would be appreciated.
>
>Her name was:
>
>Honoria English married to Charles Scholer in 1865, stated on the
>certificate Father Michail English, Mother Honoria Murphy; last
>residence 'Bet" Co. Limerick.
>
>Death certificate said Place of Birth 'Mitchell England"
>
>Hoping as always for help!
>
>Kind regards
>Jill from Sydney NSW
>
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