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From: Patricia Jungwirth <>
Subject: re - pre 1852 Port Phillip Pioneers
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:51:24 +1100


Hi,

The Vic BDM Pioneers Index does include events such as B D and M's for the
period prior to 1851 - starting at 1837 I believe.

Perhaps Valerie in Arizona would like to tell us the family names that she
is interested in - Victoria/Melbourne was a pretty small place way back
when - and somebody on this list may happen to have info. on Valerie's folk??

It is my understanding - in the very early days - although a few boats came
direct to Victoria from "the old world" - most people came to
Victoria/Melbourne via another Australian settlement - from somewhere in
Tasmania or from maybe Sydney.

Later - when the gold-rushes were on - let's say from 1851/2 onwards - most
immigrants came to Victoria on ships that had come direct from "the old
world".

Victorian writer and historian Michael Cannon - a few years ago - early
1990's? - wrote a book about Melbourne in the early days - entitled I think:

Old Melbourne Town - Before the Gold Rush. - I think the publishers were
Loch Haven books.


This book mentions a number of individuals - the lowly positoned as well as
those holding rank or authority - and has a pretty good index - sadly I
don't have a copy -
but I expect the better libraries could track one down if needed.

My wife has ancestors that were in Sydney from 1832 and in
Victoria/Melbourne from about 1847 - and I find this time fascinating.

I spent about 20 years working in the Melbourne business district - and it
was always interesting when walking around - passing small laneways,
crossing roads, to note how little the road layout had changed - and
connect historic indiviuals to the names of these roads lanes and other sites.

Does this make sense?

anyhow - come on Valerie - tell us all about it - we may be able to help?

good luck
Robert




At 05:15 PM 16/03/01 +1100, you wrote:
>Hi Valerie,
>
>I did not think that the Vic. Pioneers went back that far, try the NSW
>Pioneers disk, if the Vic. one does not go back that far. My
>understanding is that everything was recorded with NSW until about
>1856. I am sure other listers will correct me if I am wrong.
>
>Jill
>Sydney sunny at last.
>
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>> Subject: Re: historical society
>> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:54:25 +1100
>> From: Patricia Jungwirth <>
>> To:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I lived in the area for a while - what do you want to know?
>>
>> Much of the older housing stock still survives - a mix of demi-mansions and
>> workers cottages - very close to business district of Melbourne - next to
>> Toorak, Malvern Prahran, Hawksburn -
>>
>> good luck
>> Robergt
>>
>> At 02:52 PM 14/03/01 -0700, you wrote:
>> >Hi<
>> >
>> >Can someone please provide me an address for a historical society
>> >that would provide information about the Armidale, Victoria area?
>> >
>> >TIA
>> >
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>> Subject: Port Phillip Pioneers
>> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:35:12 -0700
>> From: "David Mueller" <>
>> To: "" <>
>>
>> Hi, list:
>> I would appreciate learning how to search the Port Phillip Pioneers? Is
>> there a website available,
>> or an address to which I can write?
>>
>> I have been told this would be the best way to find some arriving in
>> Victoria prior to 1852. If
>> this is incorrect, a shove in the right direction would also be
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Valerie, Arizona, USA
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