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From: "margm" <>
Subject: Re: WRENCH Family info
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:11:51 +1100
References: <01C0A1E3.9829D3A0.griffith@tpg.com.au>



----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharon Griffiths" <>
To: <>
Sent: 01 March 2001 02:54
Subject: WRENCH Family Info

Hi Sharon
>> re THOMAS WINN believed to be born near the Hawkesbury on 6/6
1896 and
> there is no
> birth records for that name.
>
> His WW1 record recorded him as HENRY JAMES WRENCH [Thomas Winn}
> Born 6/6/1891 in Gosford NSW.

His birth rego is in the NSW Federation Index as Henry James
WRENCH ref 1893 / 14071 Gosford

>
> Last week I received all Dad's ww1 war records and it all points
to the
> facts we know, and the stories Dad told us - so I figure he was
born a
> WRENCH

Correct

and changed his name to WINN sometime between 1919 and 1942
> (probably while in UK) No-one yet knows why.
> Dad met and married Mum in UK returned to Oz in 1948 the migration
records
> with my Mum and 2 elder siblings on the
> boat recorded him as NORMAN JAMES WINN.
>
> What about your parents marriage cert ??? Do you have a copy ??
NO - MUM
> HASNT A COPY AND DOESNT KNOW THE DATE (KNOWS THE CHURCH IN LONDON
THOUGH)

When was their eldest child born ?? Does she remember which time if
year ?

> > WAS 28 YEARS OLDER THAN MUM AND RATHER SECRETIVE TOO. THEY
SEPARATED WHEN
> I WAS 4, THOUGH WE ALWAYS HAD CONTACT.

Did they get divorced ??

> What does this say for names of your fathers parents ? FROM MY
SEARCH THEY
> ARE JOEL AND HARRIET S WRENCH.

Correct , your Dad was the youngest
A HARRIET WRENCH DIED IN 1895

At Gosford in 1895 ref #1347

> >
> > Dad lost his mother early on and was one of the youngest in a
> large family.

He was the youngest

> MY SEARCH INDICATES Henry J Wrench's siblings to be
>
> 1) John J WRECH dob 1877 b Waterloo , m Rose MOORE 1900 /2816
Sydney


> 2) Ethel May dob 1878 b Waterloo m Francis B STEVENS 1904 /
5038 Sydney


> 3) Albert George dob 1880 b Central cumberland m Catherines
COLLINS St Leonards 1902



> 4) Fredrick William dob 1883 b Gosford m Vera C DOYNE St
Leonards 1909
>
5) Henry James (DAD) dob 1891 Gosford

>
> > He was brought up by his Dad hovever I think his dad died when
he
> was in> early teens.

No......... Joel WRENCH d aged 82 in 1932 ref # 5966 Chatswood
parents names N/K. He didnt leave a will

. He told me his parents (my
> paternal> grandparents) were buried in unmarked graves at the
Yarramalong
> Cemetry on a rise beside a Church I tried to find the Church 2
years ago

Think it highly unlikely someone whose death registered at Chatswood
be buried anywhere up here. Far more likely to have gone to either
Northern suburbs at North Ryde or Rookwood


> it was> gone! Apparently burnt down a few years ago. MUM THINKS
THIS WAS
> NARARA CEMETRY,

Not aware of any cemetery ever being at Narara

NOT YARRAMALONG. DID THAT BURN DOWN? IS THAT CEMETRY ON
> THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE OLD HIGHWAY BETWEEN GOSFORD AND WYONG ON A
HILLSIDE
> (OR SLOPE)?

That discription could fit Lisarow Cemetery ??

>
> IS IT POSSIBLE TO ESTABLISH IF THERE WAS A BURIAL FOR DADS
PARENTS OR HIS
> SIBLINGS?

Of course it is. You need to buy say 3 certs to start with
........ Your fathers birth and both his parents death certs All
these docs will give you info hard / impossible to get other wise

You can still get transcription of many NSW BDMs .....see
www.marbract.com.au
for info . Or you can order via the NSW BDMs on line
www.nsw.bdm.gov.au

I also found death of Rose WRENCH 1934/ 779 aged 60 Auburn

and Albert George WRENCH d 1941/ 8655 Canterbury

Francis Charles STEVENS d 13 Oct 1940 Burwood . He left a will ref
254165

Ethel May STEVENS d 15 Oct 1929 Burwood She left a will ref
184613

And in the assisted migrants indexes the arrival of Joel and Harriet
WRENCH on the ship 'Lord Dalhousie' , which arr Sydney 7 May 1877.
He was 26 , she 23.
He was son of John & Mary from Huntingdonshire , ag lab, C of E ,
could read and write

She was from London, parents BD , C of E could read and write

hope this helps

Bye

Marg Morters
NSW Central Coast Mailing List
Gosford, NSW
Australia


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