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From: "Cameron" <>
Subject: [HV] Re: Richard BATEUP and family
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:17:18 +1100
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Dear Tony,

This is very interesting.

I don't know what to do about Matilda BATEUP

I have found on the BDMs the following:

1. 1868 marriage of Edward BATEUP to Eliza HILDER (?is she E. Matilda?)

2. Edward and Eliza Matilda BATEUP had many children including:
Edward Albert b.1873
James Richard b. 1880
Charles A. b. 1885
Leslie G. b. 1888

3. All the above children appear to be listed on your copy of G.
Challinor's list of burials in Gunning Cemetery.

4. If this is the E. Matilda BATEUP we are looking for, I don't know what
she in doing in a grave with
D.R. BATEUP!

I would be interested in your thoughts about this.

Many thanks for those web sites. I shall check them out.

Best wishes

Sybil Cameron

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Moore" <>
To: "Cameron" <>; <>;
<>
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 12:10 AM
Subject: Re: Richard BATEUP and family


> Dear Sybil & John,
>
> Since you've lost your Matilda Bateup, you may like to think about these
> ideas:
>
> There is a birth registration in 1930:
> 906/1930 BATEUP ELIZA M Father JAMES Mother MATILDA
> The mother could be born as early as 1890 if this was the last child or
1915
> if it was her first child.
>
> Alternatively, if you look at Graeme Challinor's cemetery listings for
> Gunning general Cemetery, there's a an E M Bateup who is probably the wife
> of the D R Bateup. They appear to be buried in the same grave (Inscription
> 316). Also Ronald Edward Bateup (316) perhaps son or grandson (?) of the
> above
>
> I would suspect that E M Bateup could be your lost MATILDA Bateup. If this
> is the case B, D & M might have her listed as E Bateup.
>
> My ancestors were notorious for using their middle name especially if they
> had been registered with the same name as the parent. In your case it
could
> possibly be the mother. This occurred in both male and female.
> I even have the initials reversed for the father on two different
children's
> birth certificates.
> My grandmother and her sister had the father's name on the birth
> registrations as Edward A CROUCHER and Alexander E CROUCHER respectively.
My
> mother said he was always known to the family as Ed CROUCHER
>
>
>
> I don't know if these pages will help you any, but they are connected with
> the BATEUP's
>
> Bateup Death Notices Sydney Morning Herald from 1990 to the present:
> http://www.southernx.com.au/dps/smhdb061.htm
> http://www.southernx.com.au/dps/smhdb060.htm
>
> Other Bateup related pages:
>
> http://users.hunterlink.net.au/~maagfb/l_b.html
> http://users.hunterlink.net.au/~maagfb/p_72.html
>
> http://www.webone.com.au/~sgrieves/cemetries_australia.htm
> http://www.webone.com.au/~sgrieves/binalong_&_bowning_cemetri.htm
> http://www.webone.com.au/~sgrieves/deaths_yass_courier.htm
>
> http://www.directenergy.com.au/FamilyTrees/Database/idxb.htm
> http://www.directenergy.com.au/FamilyTrees/Database/dat833.htm
>
> http://www.standard.net.au/~jwilliams/x59_22.htm
>
> http://www.netspace.net.au/~talone/tree/dat40.htm
> http://www.netspace.net.au/~talone/tree/idxb.htm
>
>
> This was on Graeme Challinor's Gundaroo Page:
>
> Bateup Arthur Edwin 8 10 1976 93 430
> GG
> Bateup Charles Alfred 7 8 1971 85 32
> GG
> Bateup D R
> 316 GG
> Bateup E M
> 316 GG
> Bateup Edward Albert 13 1 1949 76 317
GG
> Bateup Elizabeth 1930 74
> 25 MNP
> Bateup Florence Isabella 7 11 1982 83 336
GG
> Bateup James Richard 28 2 1959 78 366 GG
> Bateup Katherine Agnes 23 6 1923 34 32
GG
> Bateup Kathleen 24 11 1961 75 431
> GG
> Bateup Leslie 11 6 1959
> 336 GG
> Bateup Rita Clarice 30 9 1980 73 428
> GG
> Bateup Ronald Edward 12 5 1940 9 316 GG
> Bateup Susanna 7 12 1957 77 317
> GG
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cameron" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 5:42 PM
> Subject: Richard BATEUP and family
>
>
> > Hello John,
> >
> > This is very interesting.
> >
> > The NSW BDMs show that Richard Bateup died at Gunning in 1882 aged 78
> years.
> > Also that a George A. Bateup died at Nanima [near Gundaroo] in 1899 -
> > possibly the husband of Elizabeth and father of Eliza b. 1860.
> >
> > I have heard of Matilda Bateup - but cannot find and B,D or M for her.
> >
> > I'm sure they all are connected - and we shall find out how!
> >
> > Best wishes
> >
> > Sybil
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John McInerney" <>
> > To: "Cameron" <>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 11:10 AM
> > Subject: Re: BATEUP family
> >
> >
> > > Sybil,
> > >
> > > We have another Bateup family in our file. They are my wife, Helen's,
> > > relations from the Gundaroo/Gunning area.
> > >
> > > I have Matilda and George who were children of Richard Bateup and Amy
> > ??? -
> > > Richard died in Gunning in 1882. I haven't done much on them yet, but
> will
> > > be following them up when time permits.
> > >
> > > If you could keep an eye out for info on them in your travels I would
> > > appreciate it - if I see anything on yours I will send it to you. They
> are
> > > probably connected in some way as there were not very many Bateups
> around
> > in
> > > the early days.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > John McInerney
> > > Koorawatha NSW
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Cameron" <>
> > > To: <>
> > > Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2001 1:53
> > > Subject: BATEUP family
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I am researching two early BATEUP families in NSW.
> > > >
> > > > Thomas and Martha BATEUP were here by 1839, when they had their son
> > James.
> > > >
> > > > Esau and Anne BATEUP were here by 1844, when they had their son
John.
> > > >
> > > > I'd be interested to know if anyone has researched these families.
> They
> > > may be related - there seems to be some cross-naming in the names of
> their
> > > children.
> > > >
> > > > Best wishes
> > > >
> > > > Sybil Cameron
> > > >
> > > > ______________________________
>
>
>

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