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From: "Chris" <>
Subject: Re: PHEMISTER RESEARCHERS ?
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 10:37:11 +0800
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Morning Les

John Ceasar McKee was the son of John McKee (b 1796 Kilkenny Ireland, d 15
aug 1888 Smiths Flat) and Lydia Caesar (b Apr 1810 Tipperary, Ireland, d 23
Jun 1872 Smith Flat). John and Lydia were married on 16 Jul 1828 and
arrived in the Colony on board the "Thomas Lowery" on 16th Apr 1840. John
Caesar was the youngest of 6 children. Born in 1840 either in Ireland or on
board ship and christened in Sydney on 14 Jul 1840.

His brother Julius McKee (b 1833 Butterwick, Tipperary, d 13 jan 1910
Grafton) married Margaret's sister Margery Phemister.

The girls' mother had a number of name variations over time, May, Marsley,
and Margery, the orginal appearing to be Marsley and was born 30 mar 1806 in
Killiehuntly Kingussie/Insch, Scotland.

Their father George Phimister was baptised on 4 Feb 1793 in Duffus, Moray
and was the son of John Phimister (s of William Fimister and Jean Jack) and
Isobele Sutherland (dau of John Sutherland and Jannet Fraser).

Margaret and Margery's siblings were Beatrice, John, Isabella, Peter, Jane,
Ann, Charlotte, Charles and Alexander (my Great Grandfather). They are
associated with the following family names Hickey, Havinden, Cavanagh,
Donnell, Dwyer, Simpson, McLaughlin and, of course, McKee.

Les, what draft would that be?

Chris

----- Original Message -----
From: "Les Hewett, Napier, New Zealand" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 9:12 AM
Subject: PHEMISTER RESEARCHERS ?


> Would appreciate any comments, additions or alterations to this draft.
Sincere thanks: Les and Gloria, Napier, NZ.
>
> Rose McKee was the daughter of John Ceasar McKee and Margaret Warren
Phemister (m.1864/2117), one of their eight children, born in Smith's Flats
(now Copmanhurst), NSW, March 26, 1865/9146? Other known children: Ruth
Isabella, 1879/14315; Edith M., 1884/19784; Elizabeth I., 1888/5424; Mary,
d.1883/9296 (also other unnamed children in records). Margaret Phemister
arrived in NSW with her parents and family on board the "Asia," 10 May 1839,
after a horror voyage that started in Cromarty, Scotland, on 17 September
1838. On the way a son Peter died at Plymouth where the ship was undergoing
repairs, and a daughter Jane was born in the Bay of Biscay. [Jane was
christened in the St. Andrew's Scots Presbyterian Church, Sydney, 1839.] A
son James G. was born in Denbie Parish, Hunter District, 1840. Margaret's
parents were George Phemister (d.1867/5213), son of James and Rachel, and
Margery Warren (d.1877/5515, daughter of Peter and Beatrice Warren(?),
Scotland. Nothing yet known of Jo!
> hn McKee but a John McKee, 21, arrived on the "Emma,"1857 (Film No.'s
2138, 2475). No John McKee (this spelling) appears in the old Scottish
Parish Registers, IGI, c.1836). (Many of the Scottish and NSW-born children
have names that correspond with early Scottish families found: below.)
>
>
> The Phemister family that arrived in 1839 were the only family of this
name in NSW to 1885 at least. Children: Alexander William, m.Ellen
McLaughlin 1877/2976; Ann m.Robert Simpson 1861; Charles George m.Alice E.
Havinden 1878; Isabella m.Thomas Cavanagh 1856; *Jane m.Martin Donnell 1858;
John m.Louisa J. Havinden (sister to Alice) 1876; Margaret m.John McKee
1864; Margery m.Julius McRae 1865; *James m.Frances J. B. Sullivan 1882.
(Seventeen children to these couples by 1887.) *NSW born.
>
>
> Family research in Scotland provides: Peter Warran/Warren born to James
Warran and Isabella McBain, May 12, christened May 25, Parishes of Cromdale
and Inverallan and Alvie, Inverness. His siblings were Christian, May 1,
1807; Margarat, June 11 1809; William, July 15, 1816; Elspat, January 17,
1819. Later children christened as Warren, all at above Parishes which was
the practice. There is a James Warran b.Cromdale about 1778, spouse of
Isabella McBain (IGI); no Isabella McBain born/christened about this time
found in the IGI, but there was an Isabella McBain christened March 19,
1749, in Alvie, to Farquar McBain and Janet McDonald. This McBain family
could be her grandparents? The marriage of Peter Warren and Beatrice, and
James and Rachel Phemister, not found in IGI. However, a James Phemister was
christened October 20, 1777, Urquhart, Moray, to George Phemister and Agnes
Hay (marriage not found). Other children: Margaret, christened February 15,
1767; Alexander, November !
> 26, 1780 (both Urquhart).
>
>
>
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