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From: "MargM" <>
Subject: Re: [NORCO] COLLIER - BURNSIDE
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:29:00 +1000
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From: "Kristy Willoughby" <>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [NORCO] Nimbin History- Info


Hi again Ann


>, but your looking at the wrong Richard Collier.

I was ??


My Richard was a convict ,came out on the Royal Admiral,
and is a legend in my family for his sheer awfulness! The
family settled in Surry Hills Sydney and Richard spent
most of his time in Darlinghurst goal for abandoning >his
children, drunkenness etc. His wife Elizabeth Martin was
born in 1836 in Tasmania, daughter of George Martin and
Ann Burnside

Thats makes her 49 years younger than Richard COLLIER ,
per Royal Admiral 2 /or he 49 years years older then
her????????
According to some convict info he came from Kent and was
only 13 years old in 1800 when he arrived here. He is in
the 1806 muster as being with Richard ALLWRIGHT ..........
Not in the 1814 and couldnt find ref to him in the 1828
census and nothing popped out of State Records web site

No one has claimed this Richard COLLIER per Royal Admiral
2 . When referring to any convict the name of the ship
that
transported them and its voyage number was part of any
convicts identity



.George Martin died in Tasmania in 1846 and I can find no
record of what happened to Ann. Ann was born at Windsor
NSW in 1819, >daughter of Ambrose Burnside

He was a Redcoat



> and his wife Sarah. In 1834 Ann was tried and convicted
> of "highway robbery " and transported to Tasmania

Found ref to that . Have you got copy of her file from Tas
Archives?


Have you ever had chance to check out the 2 series of
Hawkesbury Pioneers books ??


were she met and married George. Obliviously their
daughter
Elizabeth returned to the mainland, and I'm presuming that
Ann and the rest of the family did as well. In my
desperation to find ANYTHING on Ann , I asked the NSW BDM
website to give me any Ann with a >father named Ambrose
(not that common!

Is only the one first name Ann, fathers name Ambrose in
the Pioneers indexes so not hard to find



> a name) who died in the relevant time frame and out
> popped Ann Smith who died at Lismore in 1888. An Ann
> Martin married a >George Smith in Sydney in 1846 and a
> George Smith also died at Lismore in 1886

Neither left a will


Bye

MargM
Member of
Central Coast FHS
Gosford
NSW

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