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From: Steve Farmer <>
Subject: [ANS] Fwd: Re: [PJ] School of Industry - Home for Girls - Parramatta
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 11:36:43 +1000


Hi,

reposted from the PJ Convicts list

rgds
Steve
>
>Dear Listers
>
>Information at:
>
>http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/publications/shortguides/sg11-sources/page3.ht
>m
>
>d. Industrial School for Girls, 1867+
>(Newcastle, 1867-71; Biloela, 1871-87; Parramatta. 1887+)
>This institution was established in Newcastle in 1867, transferred to
>Biloela (Cockatoo Island) in 1871, and finally to Parramatta in 1887. As the
>major records were "carried forward" with each move, they have been listed
>under the one heading for convenience.
>
>1. Registers of warrants received, August 1867-1942, CGS 14722
>
>These registers record the name of each child, her age, education and
>religion; the names of her parents and of the Bench she was sentenced at.
>
>
>
>Location
> Dates
>
>
>5/3428
> 1867-Sep 1869,
>
>
>
> Dec 1876-1924
>
>
>5/4857
> 1925-42
> Records less than 70 years old are Closed to Public Access (CPA)
>
>
>2. Daily admission and discharge registers, September 1897-October 1942, CGS
>14725
>
>These volumes note the number of girls present in school for each day with
>details of any alterations, such as what court or home new girls came from,
>and to whom old girls were discharged or apprenticed; the day and date of
>such alterations: and the authority by which they were made.
>
>
>
>Location
> Dates
>
>
>5/3426
> 13 Sep 1897-16 Jul 1908
>
>
>5/3427
> 1 Jul 1908-31 Dec 1928
>
>
>5/4840
> Jan 1929-Oct 1942
> Closed to Public Access (CPA)
>
>
>3. Admission, discharge and after career register, 1897-1925, CGS 14730
>
>(5/4838) CPA
>
>4. Admission and discharge register, 1941-43, CGS 14731
>
>(5/4839) CPA
>
>5. Register of Committals, 1906-18, CGS 14724
>
>(8 /1758)
>
>This register records the name of child, age at date of committal, date of
>committal, offence, name of parent or guardian, character of parents and
>home surroundings, maintenance orders and remarks. The volume also includes
>a list of girls as on 1 January 1918.
>
>6. Discharge register, 1869-70, 1876-99, CGS 14723
>
>(5/4837)
>
>7. Registers of apprenticeships, November 1895-October 1904
>
>(5/4842), 1905-10 (5/4843), CGS 14739
>
>These volumes are arranged by name of girl, showing to whom apprenticed;
>wages to be paid into the Savings Bank; dates of - leaving institution,
>expiry of indentures and advice re money in Bank; amount of wages actually
>paid; and remarks concerning behaviour etc.
>
>8. Reports on conditional discharges, 1908-25, CGS 14732
>
>(5/4841) CPA
>
>These are summaries of reports received from local authorities, from the
>girls themselves and their guardians on their behaviour.
>
>9. Copies of letters sent by the Superintendent, 1868-71. 1874-78, 1888-90,
>1892-96,1899-1909, CGS 14717
>
>This series contains letters to the Principal Under Secretary. Chief
>Secretary's Office. Sydney. They are either weekly reports on the girls'
>health, behaviour and number: or reports on particular people or events,
>such as a girl about to be apprenticed or an outbreak of some disease. After
>21 September 1870, letters to other officials and to private citizens are
>recorded. These range from furniture requisitions to complaints about the
>treatment of apprentices. At the front of Vol. 6 is a series of letters of
>advice to girls apprenticed out, an innovation of Superintendent Dryhurst.
>
>
>
>Location
> Dates
>
>5/3429
> 19 Dec 1868-25 Oct 1871
>
>5/3430
> 20 May 1874-11 Dec 1878
>
>5/3431
> 8 Jun 1888-31 Jul 1890
>
>5/3432
> 5 Aug 1892-3 Oct 1895
>
>5/3433
> 3 Oct 1895-11 Dec 1896
>
>5/3434
> 15 Feb 1899-16 Feb 1909
>
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Margaret Szalay <>
>To: <>
>Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 10:58 AM
>Subject: RE: [PJ] School of Industry - Home for Girls - Petersham
>
>
>> Another school in a similar vein was the School of Industry in Shaw
>> Street, Petersham. I know very little about the above school except
>> that it operated in the early 1900s, and possibly earlier, and that my
>> grandmother taught there between 1904 - 07, but as she died in 1920, I
>> have no direct information. It was Church-run and seemed to be more a
> > repository for young girls whose families were not able to cope
>> financially, than a reformitory.
>> Margaret
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Steve Farmer [mailto:]
>> Sent: Saturday, 30 March 2002 11:11 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: [PJ] Fwd: Re: Female Orphanage at Parramatta, early 1900's
>>
>> Listers,
>>
>> I thought this may be germane to the current discussion re orphans,
>> in my research I came across several works on the Female Orphan
>> School as well
>>
>> Regards
>> Steve
>>
>> >From: Carol Liston
>> >Subject: Re: Female Orphanage at Parramatta, early 1900's
>> >Status:
>> >
>> >Dear Steve,
>> >
>> >I suspect if [snipped] were in a Parramatta institution in the early
>> >1900s it was probably the Parramatta Girls Industrial School rather
>> >than the Female Orphan School which closed in 1886.
>> >
>> >The Parramatta Girls Industrial School was a sort of juvenile
>> >justice place for 'uncontrollable' girls. Many of the girls there
>> >would have been state wards. The personal records survive at State
>> >Records though there are restrictions on access as a descendent you
>> >can probably get permission.
>> >
>> >For more information in general see:
>> >
>> >Williamson, N. "'Hymns, Songs and Blackguard Verses': Life in the
>> >Industrial and Reformatory School for Girls in New South Wales, Pt 1
>> >1867-1887." Journal of the Royal Australian Historical Society 67,
>> >no. 4 (March) (1982).
>> >
>> >Williamson, N. "Laundry Maids or Ladies? Life in the Industrial and
>> >Reformatory School for Girls in New South Wales, Pt 2 1887 to 1910."
>> >Journal of the Royal Australian Historical Society 68, no. 4 (March)
>> >(1983).
>> >
>> >Willis, S. "Made to be moral - at Parramatta Girls' School,
>> >1898-1923." In Twentieth Century Sydney. Studies in urban and social
>> >history, edited by J. Roe. Sydney: Hale and Iremonger, 1980.
>> >
>> >Willis, S. "Purification at Parramatta, the Industrial School for
>> >Girls." In In Pursuit of Justice, edited by J. MacKinolty and H.
>> >Radi. Sydney, 1979.
>> >
>> >Quinn, P. "'We ask for bread and are given stone': the Girls'
>> >Industrial School, Parramatta 1941-61." JRAHS 75, no. 2 (1989).
>> >
>> >The buildings are still standing, having been earlier used as the
>> >Roman Catholic Orphan School, then the Industrial School, and then
>> >from the 1970s as the Norma Parker Remand Centre for women.
>> >
>> >Hope this helps your research.
>> >
>> >Carol
>> >
>> >Associate Professor Carol Liston
>> >Historian and Heritage Consultant
>> >
>> >School of Humanities
>> >University of Western Sydney - Penrith Campus
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>> PEARSE - Somerset, ENG
>> LAWSON - Hamburg, Germany
>> FRIEND - Sussex, ENG
>> SAGER - Cheshire & Lancashire, ENG
>> McLACHLAN - Argyll, SCT
>> BOWN - Derby, ENG
>>
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FARMER - Lanarkshire & Buteshire, SCT
LOGIE - Perthshire , SCT
PAUL - Morayshire , SCT
PEARSE - Somerset, ENG
LAWSON - Hamburg, Germany
FRIEND - Sussex, ENG
SAGER - Cheshire & Lancashire, ENG
McLACHLAN - Argyll, SCT
BOWN - Derby, ENG

From beautiful Sydney, NSW, Australia
A member of the Society of Australian Genealogists http://www.sag.org.au/

Minds are like parachutes, they work best when open.

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