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From: "Paul Lowry" <>
Subject: Re: [PJ] Charles Hodges
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 16:04:38 +1000
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Ray,

Thanks Ray, yes I have tried the Old Bailey site (My Charles Hodges mother
in-law Sarah Bentley my gggrandmother gets a mention there) but still can
only find one Charles Hodges and you are right, he was convicted in 1826 not
1829 which I found on re checking the reel for the quarterly return for
April, May, June 1830. Part of the date is obliterated and I took it as 1829
and that leads to another question.
If he was convicted in 1826 and I was looking at the return for April- June
1830 where his age was stated as 14, does this mean he was 14 when convicted
in 1826 or 14 in 1830? Did they update the ages on the returns?

I agree that one of these earlier culprits may may have offended again and
then sent to Bermuda, and I am trying to find out where he was sentenced,
his crime and when he departed for Bermuda.

I will check out the Launceston or Hobart Libraries when next there for the
Palmer's Index or there's a possibility I will be in Sydney in the next
few months.

When you say registers, do your mean the AJCP reels? They are only available
by request in Tasmania for a fee and only cover a three month period so it's
difficult to work out which one to get when it's over a several years.

Your help is appreciated,
Paul Lowry.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: [PJ] Charles Hodges


> Paul.
> If you want to be even more confused, try the Old Bailey site:
> http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/search/name/
>
> This gives details for 5 more Charles HODGES -- including a 14-year-old,
> but convicted in 1826, not 1829.
> And of course, one of these earlier culprits might also have been one of
> the older crims at a later stage.
>
> Regarding the hulks.
> Some of the hulk registers provide details of when and how the prisoner
> was disposed of from the hulk.
> So, maybe more delving into the registers of the "Euryalis" MIGHT shed
> further light on him for you.
>
> You might also find some more information on this fellow in Palmer's Index
> to the Times of London newspaper.
> I thought that it was freely available on-line; but from a google search,
> it seems that it is only accessible on-line through institutions which
> have subscribed to that service. So failing that, your local largish
> library MIGHT have Palmer's Index on CD-Rom. In Sydney, the NSW State
> Library certainly holds it in this format. They also hold the original
> printed volumes of Palmer's Index, which might be another option for you.
>
> Hoping that some of this might help you in at least a small way.
> Good Luck: Ray in Sydney
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Lowry" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 3:33 PM
> Subject: [PJ] Charles Hodges
>
>> My great grandfather was Charles Albert Hodges but my problem is there
>> were three Charles Hodges and possibly more.
>>
>> Charles Albert Hodges Married Sarah Holden on 18 Mar 1862.
>> Age on Marriage certificate: Charles 35 (widower) Sarah 19
>> They had ten children.
>> Previously married to Ann Blake who died 1860 and was about 41 years old.
>>
>> 1) The first arrived on the Layton (3) departed London on 26/07/1839
>> arrived Tasmania 10/12/1839, CON32/22 description list CON18/14, CON23/2,
>> appropriation list MM33/7, CON27/8 convict number 36389.
>>
>> 2) The second arrived on the Neptune (2) which departed from the Cape of
>> Good Hope on 21/02/1850 and arrived in Tasmania on 5/04/1850 Indent
>> CON14/36 (cannot find him in it) other records HO11/15. The Neptune had
>> departed from Bermuda with convicts for South Africa but the Governor
>> wouldn't let them disembark and instead the Neptune left with additional
>> convicts. On their arrival in Tasmania the convicts were given their
>> freedom and apparently nothing was recorded. To further complicate
>> matters the records in Bermuda have been destroyed or lost.
>>
>> What I would like to find out when was this Charles Hodges sent to
>> Bermuda, his age, crime etc? I am of the opinion that he is my great
>> grandfather.
>>
>> 3) The third Charles Hodges is recorded on AJCP reel HO 8/19 as being on
>> the hulk "Euryalus" at Chatham (Statement of Return from 1 Jan to 31
>> March 1829). His number was 434, age 14, crime larceny, convicted London
>> 11 May 1829. This hulk held several hundred boys and only about 15
>> adults.
>>
>> How do I find out what happened to him? Thanks, Paul
>> Lowry.
>
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