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From: Paul Hatfield <>
Subject: re: Brisbane Lutheran Churches c.1870
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:58:49 +1000 (EST)


Thank you very much Eric.

Your reply is most informative.

Yes you are right, the Officiating Minister for the 1865, South Brisbane,
marriage was John G Haussmann, and for the 1871, North Brisbane, marriage
was C.F.A.F Schirmeister.

Yes I would like a picture of the Pastor and the Church - any cost?

I am also interested to know if these churches retain any of their 19th
century reisters - do you know if they do? If so, they may help me
decipher the Birth Place entries on the certificates.

Thank you again,

Paul.

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Alfred Paul HATFIELD of Townsville, Tropical North Queensland, Australia
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On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Eric Kopittke wrote:

> Paul,
>
> You've probably had a flood of emails following your query of Tuesday 6
> April, but I thought I might be able to add a little background
> information.
>
> The short answer is that both congregations still exist and are known
> generally as North and South Brisbane.
>
> The church at North Brisbane is "St. Andrew's" (Sankt Andreas originally).
> It is located at the corner of Wickham Terrace and Wharf Street - just
> where Wickham Terrace joins Ann Street (In other words, this is another one
> of Brisbane's "fiveways"). The site is one block away from Central Railway
> Station and a few blocks away from the main shopping district of the city.
> The congregation was organised in 1858 by Pastor Carl Franz Alexander
> Schirmeister, who was the first Lutheran clergyman to be registered with
> the Queensland Registrar General. The congregation was granted one and a
> half acres of land by the government for church purposes on Wickham
> Terrace. The first church was built in 1861, the second church was
> dedicated 30 April 1882. The current church was erected in the early 1960s.
> Pastor Schirmeister served the congregation until his death in 1887.
>
> Many of the city's leading medical specialists have rooms in Wickham
> Terrace. A considerable portion of the congregation's valuable property was
> resumed in the early 1960s for the Turbot Street extension. I presume that
> this resumption resulted in the demolition of the 1882 church.
>
> The church at South Brisbane is "Nazareth". Its current location is in
> Hawthorne Street, Woolloongabba - a couple of blocks west of the Brisbane
> Cricket Ground.
>
> The first services in the area were conducted by Pastor Schirmeister, and a
> grant of land on the corner of Cordelia and Glenelg Streets, South Brisbane
> was received from the government for church purposes in 1857. The
> congregation was organised by Pastor Johann Gottfried Haussmann in 1861 and
> the first church opened in November 1862. This was enlarged in 1882. The
> present church in Hawthorne Street was dedicated on 10 May 1896 and the old
> Cordelia Street building was moved to Hawthorne Street to act as the church
> hall.
>
> I do not know the reason that the church moved, however I suspect that that
> the Cordelia Street site may have been flooded in the 1893 flood which
> covered much of Brisbane. The Hawthorne Street site is on the side of a
> hill, so would be well above flood levels.
>
> Pastor Haussmann served "Nazareth" church until 1866. It would seem that
> they may have had difficulty in obtaining a pastor, since South Brisbane
> was served by Pastor Schirmeister from 1868 to 1881.
>
> [Information extracted from "The United Evangelical Lutheran Church in
> Australia (U.E.L.C.A.), Its History, Activities and Characteristics" by Th.
> Hebart (1938); and from "Under the Southern Cross, History of the
> Evangelical Lutheran Church of Australia" by A. Brauer (1956).]
>
> Thus, both marriages that you mentioned were probably conducted by Pastor
> Schirmeister. If it is of any use to you, I could send you a picture of
> Pastor Schirmeister and of the first "Sankt Andreas" church.
>
> Trust that this information is useful.
>
> Greetings
>
> Eric Kopittke.
>
>

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