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From: "Ray Edmunds" <>
Subject: Re: [TAS-CON] Robert JARVIS
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:06:51 +1000
References: <006a01c87374$b26e41f0$0200000a@POSS>


Hi Trudy,
Yes, I know but if they sentenced them to life, if so where would they send
them in 1837, which is pre- Probation, within the state or to another
location. The term 'transportation for life' would seem a bit odd for an
internal sentence?
Regards.

RayE
----- Original Message -----
From: "Trudy Cowley" <>
To: "'Ray Edmunds'" <>; "'David Armstrong'"
<>; <>
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 1:57 PM
Subject: RE: [TAS-CON] Robert JARVIS


> Hello Ray
>
> It was quite common for convicts to get a second sentence of
> transportation
> in VDL.
>
> Regards
> Trudy
>
> Dr Trudy Cowley
> on behalf of the Female Factory Research Group
>
> www.femalefactory.com.au/FFRG
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ray Edmunds [mailto:]
>> Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2008 1:23 PM
>> To: Trudy Cowley; 'David Armstrong';
>> Subject: Re: [TAS-CON] Robert JARVIS
>>
>> Hi David and Trudy,
>> I agree on face value it seems an unlikely colonial sentence. Could this
>> have been his original sentence? Did he get a ToL or a CP?
>> Regards.
>>
>> RayE
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Trudy Cowley" <>
>> To: "'David Armstrong'" <>;
>> <>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:25 AM
>> Subject: Re: [TAS-CON] Robert JARVIS
>>
>>
>> > Hello David
>> >
>> > If a convict was convicted of another sentence of transportation whilst
> in
>> > VDL, they weren't actually sent out of VDL, but were sent to a
>> > secondary
>> > places of punishment such as Port Arthur, Maria Island, Macquarie
> Harbour
>> > (for men, which one dependent on the period) and the female factories
> for
>> > women. They would usually serve a period of probation (about 2 years
> for
>> > women) then be assigned (under the assignment system) or hired (under
> the
>> > probation system), assuming they didn't commit any more offences which
>> > extended their sentence.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Trudy
>> >
>> > Dr Trudy Cowley
>> > Research Tasmania
>> > (AAGRA member)
>> >
>> > www.researchtasmania.com.au
>> >
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: [mailto:aus-tas-convicts-
>> >> ] On Behalf Of David Armstrong
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2008 8:14 PM
>> >> To:
>> >> Subject: [TAS-CON] Robert JARVIS
>> >>
>> >> Hello List
>> >>
>> >> I have come across a document regarding Robert JARVIS , at Van
> Diemen's
>> >> Land.
>> >> The Supreme Court of VDL record is dated 1837 and provides details of
> the
>> > crime
>> >> and conviction of Robert JARVIS , late of Hobart.
>> >> There is no other information as to whether he was a settler; a former
>> > convict , nor
>> >> are there any shipping details.
>> >>
>> >> On the reverse of this Tasmanian document , the 1837 sentence reads-"
>> > guilty - to
>> >> be transported beyond the ..... for the term of his natural life",
> which
>> > seems strange
>> >> for a VDL sentence.
>> >>
>> >> Would like to hear from anyone who can shed any light on this .
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >>
>> >> David
>> >> Brisbane
>> >>
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