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From: "NANDINA" <>
Subject: Re: [AVDR]Gander - FerntreeGully
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 11:18:05 +1000
References: <3.0.32.20020606191607.00dd000c@aardvark.net.au>


Well, now we know where Selman Avenue got its name.
An interesting passage of history, Robert.

Cheers,

Nandina
----- Original Message -----
From: Patricia Jungwirth <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:17 PM
Subject: [AVDR]Gander - FerntreeGully


> Here are extracts from Coulson's book - generally the
> properties referred to are unlikely to exist today - since suburban
> development covers muvh of the land mentioned.
>
> good luck
> Robert Jungwirth - grandson of Les Jungwirth - in Blackwood Park in the
> 1920's.
>
>
> ..........................................................................
> In 1865 Fern Tree Gully was the centre of district life and residents of
the
> day included the Bambury, Chaundy, Dobson, Lum, Moore and Westley
> families (pioneers of the timber era), and the Selman family on Dawson's
> Glenfern.
>
> By that time Albert Selman had begun to develop his property
> Willow Vale and his neighbours in the Glenfern Road area were Patrick
> Callanan, Patrick Ryan, and Jas. Smith. Thomas Gander was established at
> Blackwood Park and Henry Smith at Fulham Grange, while Wm. Hughes
> had settled in Fern Tree Gully Road and Jas. McMahon in Burwood Road.
>
> George Dicksen was then mine host at a paling shack dignified by the title
> "Fern
> Tree Gully Hotel" close to the site of the hostelry still known by that
name,
> and Wm. Carter and John Ashley operated the sawmill established by Beilby
> near the existing site of Brenock Park. W. K. Ross, who a few years later
> built the Hunting Tower Hotel near the existing Club Hotel, settled in the
> district about this period and the above families, together with J.W.
Beilby,
> were the real pioneers of Fern Tree Gully.
> ..........................................................................
> Blackwood Park, well known Fern Tree Gully property, was purchased by
> Thomas Gander at a sale of Crown land held on 9 June 1865. Gander paid 1
pound
> per acre for the 431-acre holding. In 1878 Samuel Renwick purchased the
> property where his son-in-law, Lieut. H. P. Hayward, lived. Born and
educated
> in England, he served with the Royal Navy and, in 1879, he began breeding
> Welsh and Shetland ponies and draught stock at Blackwood Park.
>
> Alan Selman rented Blackwood Park from James Paterson about 1898 and
> Paterson owned most of the horses grazed there. George and Alan Tye of
Tye's
> Furniture Store in Bourke Street owned Blackwood Park from about 1910
until
> after the First War and in their time it was claimed to be "the finest
stud of
> American trotting horses in Australia".
> In 1918 three Spaniards named Enrique, Salvadare and Martin Alberni came
> to live in Fern Tree Gully. At first the brothers settled on portion of
the
> Fulham
> Grange estate on Kellett's Road but later purchased portion of Blackwood
Park.
> Alberni Brothers are today well known breeders of quality beef cattle, and
> animals from their Fulham Stud have won prizes at Royal and local shows.
> Enrique, Salvadore and the latter's son, "young Marti", remain in Fern
Tree
> Gully. In 1920 Les Jungwirth, Sen., established a dairy farm on a Closer
> Settle-
> ment block at Blackwood Park and conducted a milk round from the property.
> In 1925 George Backhouse opened a dairy in the same locality and in 1948
the
> business was purchased by Les Jungwirth, jun. (son of the former
neighbour).
>
> Captain Lambert, now an octagenarian, is the only Soldier Settler
remaining at
> Blackwood Park. In 1926 N. A. Mclntyre purchased portion of the estate and
> today a son, Alex. Mclntyre, remains on the property.
>
> At 05:17 PM 5/06/02 -0400, you wrote:
> >My ancestor Thomas Gander was mentioned in an excerpt from "Story of the
> >Dandenongs by Helen Coulson" which I saw on a website in U.K. Does
anyone
> >know if this book is still available to purchase? Also, the excerpt
> >mentions Thomas Gander in abt. 1865 being established at Blackwood Park.
> >It also mentions Henry Smith at Fulham Grange and Thomas' daughter Anne
> >married a Smith. Would these be estates or farms or places and do they
> >exist today?
> >Thanks for your help!
> >Ingrid in Canada
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Patricia Jungwirth" <>
> >To: <>
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:42 AM
> >Subject: [AVDR] Dandenongs main ridge
> >
> >
> >> The Mount Dandenong Tourist road runs in part across the main ridge of
the
> >> Dandenong Ranges - starting (or finishing?) at the Ferntree Gully
National
> >> park in Upper Ferntree Gully and proceeding roughly upwards and
northwards
> >> through Tremont, Ferny Creek, Sassafras, Olinda, Kalorama and finally
> >> Montrose...
> >>
> >> The region covered by the road is relatively new... permanent
settlement
> >in
> >> most cases is just over a 100 years old ... there weren't significant
> >> structures built of stone and brick - quarries for stone and brick were
> >> either too distant or too expensive - most of the early buildings that
> >> survive are of weatherboard - and most that have perished were of
> >> weatherboard ... brick - an expensive item to be carried into the
region
> >> was mainly restricted to chimneys ...
> >>
> >>
> >> My main interest is in the region south of Olinda along the main
ridge -
> >> taking in the areas of Sassafras, OneTree Hill , Ferny Creek and
Tremont
> >...
> >>
> >> As far as I know I have no family connections to this area in it's
early
> >> days - though my grandparents were just down the road in FTG in the
1920's
> >> and my dad was born near the highway in FTG - grandma couldn't hold out
> >til
> >> the hospital..
> >>
> >>
> >> my specific interest is the OneTree Hill ridge -
> >>
> >> so I would welcome any info on the Dunn, Duncan, Hesketh, Nelson,
Sweet,
> >> Murphy and other families in this region...
> >>
> >> thanking you
> >> Robert
> >>
> >>
> >
>


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