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From: "Robert Cunning" <>
Subject: Re: White Star: Clipper and Shipping Line
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 22:50:02 +1000
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Hello John, I spent 18 years in shipping and never heard of the term "screw
steamer" for SS. It was always "Steamship" Both Oxford Concise and Collins
Concise Dictionary give the meaning as "Steamship"

I have nrver heard of TSS and cannot find a reference for it, but certainly
TSMV stands for "Twin Screw Motor Vessel."

Cheers, Bob in Melbourne.


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Leahy" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: White Star: Clipper and Shipping Line


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ron PHILLIPS <>
> > Incidentally if I may suggest you need to change your dictionary! Whilst
> > Webster's may have defined SS as Super Swift etc etc I can assure you in
> > Marine Shipping that has never been the case. SS=Steam Ship, MV=Motor
> Vessel
> > (Diesel to the Land lubbers>
> > . My
> > contribution to the discussion has come from over 30 years in Marine
> > Insurance and an accumulation of bits of knowledge on shipping lore
> gleaned
> > from that experience but I hasten to say I am certainly ready to be
> > corrected on the matter of the White Star but I'll fight you for the
> > definition of SS (funny I always though it stood for Silly Sausage!).
> >
> > Regards
> > Ron Phillips
> > =====================================================
>
> > Dear Ron,
> I think your words above are fighting words and
> will lead you into a scrap
> whether it was said on April Fooll's Day or not. It may well have been
> acceptable in the
> Insurance Industry but I can assure you SS does NOT mean Steam Ship or
any
> of the definitions used above.
> SS = SCREW STEAMER ie, a vessel having only one screw propeller and steam
> engines.
> PS = Paddle Steamer
> TSS = Twin Screw Steamer
> MV = Motor Vessel ( Diesel Powered)
> etc etc etc There are a number of abbreviations for other types of ships
> but the one that may require you needing a
> referee is SS = SCREW STEAMER.
> Ron I do admit that SS has been corrupted into
> 'Steam Ship' over many years of use but the fact remains
> the correct definition is Screw Steamer.
> Best of luck in your bout of fisticuffs.
> Go Kindly
> Johno in Coffs.
>
>
>
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