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From: Kaye Patterson <>
Subject: Re: [AVNE] William ORR
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 08:50:04 +1100
In-Reply-To: <036201c50f61$7675e790$15f5f4dc@AOPEN>


Hi Jill,
this is your William, and his sister Jeanie -

M Rosalyn Shennan. (1990). Pioneers of the Ovens & Townsmen of Beechworth.
"William ORR, Miner and MLC, Beechworth and Wangaratta.
Born near Irvine, Ayrshire, Scotland on 13th February, 1843, the son of
William ORR, farmer and his wife Jane (nee HUNTER). ORR arrived in Victoria
in 1852 with his parents and brothers Thomas and James. He spent a number
of years in the Castlemaine and Daylesford areas before settling in
Beechworth with his family. Whilst there William joined the firm of J H
GRAY and Company, later opening a business in association with the company
in Wangaratta where he resided at 'Glenarvon'. ORR became involved in
municipal affairs and was a member of the Wangaratta Borough Council from
1875 to 1882 and Mayor from 1877 to 1888. In 1887 he entered into
partnership with his brother James as land salesmen in Melbourne. He later
joined his father in Queensland where he had mining and pastoral interests.
He also spent several years in Broken Hill, Mount Isa and Tasmania where he
was a partner in the Mount Lyell copper mine. ORR was a member of the
Legislative Council for the Northeast Province from November 1901 to May
1904. He was married in 1878 to Mary FRASER, the daughter of William FRASER
of Tallygaroopna, near Shepparton. They had no family. William ORR died at
Toorak, Melbourne on 6th February 1929 and is buried in the Boroondara
Cemetery. (Argus, 8/2/1929; OMA, 18/6/1887; Wangaratta Chronicle, 9/2/1929;
Thomason & Serle, op.cit.)"

"William TELFORD, Auctioneer, Beechworth.
Born in Stirling, Scotland about 1825, the son of John TELFORD and Jane
(nee WRIGHT). TELFORD arrived in Melbourne in 1852 where he remained for
two years, working as a salesman. In 1855 he moved to Beechworth where he
ran a general store and acted as agent for the firm of Amshel and Company.
The following year he moved to Chiltern where he kept a wine and spirit
store for two years, returning to Beechworth where he joined the firm of J
H GRAY, auctioneers. After GRAY's death in June 1861, he purchased a share
in the company and was joined by Mr J G ORR in the 1870s. On 12th July
1864, William TELFORD married GRAY's widow Jeanie Hunter Galt, the daughter
of William ORR and Jane (nee HUNTER). Jeanie was born in Ayrshire, Scotland
in 1834. ..... He died on 7th October 1895 at the age of 69, leaving a
widow, two stepsons and a step-daughter." (Alexander Sutherland, op. cit;
1857 Ovens Directory; OMA, 14/7/1864; Ovens Register, 9/10/1895)"

Kaye


At 09:12 PM 10/02/2005 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi Everyone, here I go again,
> I'm trying to find out if my William ORR was the William ORR who
>was Mayor of Wangaratta , 1878-1879, and MLA. from 1881-??
>My William was b. 1843 in Scotland, parents William ORRand Jane HUNTER.
>James G. ORR was a brother.
>William married Mary Fraser, from Ellengowan, in 1878. ? where.He was an
>auctioneer at Wangaratta around 1880, and then went to Broken Hill.
>He died in 1929 at Armadale, Vic.
>There appears to be another William ORR on the Vic, Digger Index, and it
>could be he who was the mayor. Is it possible for someone to look up an old
>newspaper or book and see the name of the wife of the ORR who was a
>politician, or his age please?
>I think it would be unlikely that my William was an Auctioneer and MLA at
>the same time. Does anyone have an thoughts on that?
>
> >This is another William ORR who might be the MLA.??
> Surname: ORR
>Given Names: Mary Ann
>Event: D
>Spouse Surname/Father: William
>Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Margaret FRASER
>Age: 3W
>Sex:
>Birth Place: WANG
>Death Place:
>Year: 1866
>Reg Number: 6847<
> .
>Many thanks for your help, I do hope I'm making some sense>
>Jill, Brisbane.

Kaye Patterson

http://www.deakin.edu.au/~kayep/geneal
Researching: PATTERSON [Co Tyrone to New Brunswick Canada to Greta/Myrrhee
Vic]: FORGE [Hundon Suffolk to Vic, mainly Greta/Myrrhee]: POULTER
[Cowlinge Suffolk to Greensborough and Kilmore area Vic]: MEYER [Germany to
Wangaratta Vic]: READ [Canterbury Kent to Geelong to Warrnambool area]:
FREITAG [Germany to Somerton Vic to Winton Vic]: HILL [Wolverhampton Staff.
to Campbellfield Vic to Taminick Vic]: GREEN [Donegal Ireland to Winton
Vic]: JOHNSTONE [Fifeshire Scotland to Terang area Vic]: HYNES [Co Clare
Ireland to Kapunda SA to Deniliquin NSW]: HUSSEY [Hampshire England to
Lilydale area Vic and Deniliquin NSW]: SANTILLA [Middlesex England to
Richmond Vic to Deniliquin NSW].

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