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From: Frank Kurchina <>
Subject: Re: [A-H-MILITARY] Military Record of Janos Deak
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:15:36 -0600
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> I am looking for information about the military record of my grandfather: Janos Deak. He was born in Tenke, Erdey. He was in the Hungarian army from about 1914 til 1945. At one point he taught at Hunyadi Matyas Honved Tistnevelo Intezet in Koszeg. He was trained at the Ludovicka Academia in Budapest. In 1915 he was made a 'vitez' twice for heroism in Isonzoi (Isonzo) Chata in Italy.
> If anyone has information or a suggestion on how to get it, I would be greatful.

Prior to WW I (1914-1918) the armies of the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy
were composed of three separate armies; the common army, which was
recruited from both the German and Hungarian portions of the Empire,
the Austrian Landwehr, which was recruited the so-called German
provinces of the Empire, which in practice contained Poles, Ukrainians,
Slovenians and Czechs and the Hungarian Landwehr (Honved), recruited
from the Hungarian administered provinces of the Empire (e.g.
Croatia-Slavonia and Slovakia)

During wartime all three forces merged together, the only difference
actually being the names of the individual regiments.
The regiments of the common army were designated "Imperial and Royal" -
kaiserlich und königlich or k.u.k. .
The Austrian Landwehr regiments were titled "Imperial and Royal"
kaiserlich und königlich or k.u.k.
Finally the Landwehr (Honvéd) were styled "Royal Hungarian"
königlich ungarisch or k.u.

http://www.glenn.jewison.btinternet.co.uk/badges/badges.htm =

To access AUSTRIAN military records you can write the War Archives
located in Wien, Austria. They do NO research.

War Archive (Österreichisches Staatsarchiv Kriegarchiv)

There is no national index for the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
You need to know the name (number) of the military unit, which
was not always from the surname's region !

http://w3g.med.uni-giessen.de/gene/reg/AUT/krainf-e.htm

Most important to the genealogical researcher are the military records.
It is surprising that these military records have NOT as yet been
indexed, since these entries hardly ever appear in the respective
parish registers. Available also are the career records
("Grundbuchblätter") of military personnel, from the foot-soldier up to
the general, ranging from about 1860 onwards; rendering all sorts of
individual data, and while often meagre on listing parents, furnishing
detailed evidence of the whole professional life.
Again only inquiries about their holdings are being dealt with and no
research conducted.

http://www.bawue.de/~hanacek/info/wienkr01.htm

LDS has an extensive collection of military records that they copied
at these military archives in Wien (Vienna)

LDS-Mormons has filmed a small portion of the Austrian military archive
records
on microfilm.
(but, not any HUNGARIAN ARMY records)

http://www.oesta.gv.at/eng_tit.htm

The LDS only filmed Austrian military records are on 3,224 reels of
microfilm in alpha order.
One problem is they are not listed under a single locality.
Very tricky to locate the correct record.
Only colonels and generals and higher ranks are listed by surname.

For Hungary military records, you need to contact the Military archive
in
Budapest.
The LDS didn't film the Hungarian military records in Budapest !

He was born in Tenke, Erdey = Erdély (H) = Transylvania
Formerly located in Bihar megye (county), Hungary.
After WW I , it was part of Romania.

Ko"szeg, Hungary is located 120 miles west of Budapest.

see Hungarian Order of Vitéz below

http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:b-5oyT2ctgUC:www.antiquesandmilitaria.com/Hungary.html+Decoration+vitez&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

v
Frank Kurcina


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