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From: "Joe White" <>
Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] ND families and education. Add my 2 cents
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 17:56:48 -0500
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For all to read:

I'll take the liberty of adding my 2 cents here regarding Dave's
"........janitorial services......."........
(And thanks Dave for putting out all those great messages).

My uncle's sister-in-law, Godl or Godie (pronounced Goadie) Whitman Koenig,
was the building superintendent at a six story apartment house in the 180th
Street area of The Bronx, N.Y.....during the 1920's - 1930's. Her husband,
Joseph Koenig, owned a baber shop a few blocks away. The Koenigs did very
well during the depression.

My Tante Louise Piller (my mothers sister) was a forelady in a sweat-shop
garment factory in Manhattan. (She would zip out twice as many garments as
the other girls.).

My mother (Franziska Berta Piller) was a super dress maker. She would sew
for private individuals; lingerie, evening gowns, entire wedding outfits.
as a pre- teenager, I used to help by cutting out the material behind the
lace at the bottom and top of the piece. Later in her life (1970's) she
worked for Yolande Lingerie in Manhattan. She would work from the initial
design; do the material estimating, and sewed a make-up piece for viewing.
She was earning more money than I did as an equipment planning engineer for
th N.Y. Telephone. (In Komitat Arad, as a young girl, she would smuggle
tobacco across the border. Which border, I don't know. It must have been
during WW1 when she barely a teenager.).

Note: all of the above were from The Banat ( NeuArad,
Kleinsanktnikolaus,Traunau).

Joe



----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] ND families and education


> In a message dated 12/1/00 9:55:10 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> writes:
>
>
> > I would be prepared to make a case that education was not highly valued
> > among Banaters. The main goal was to put their kids out to work as soon
> > as they could stand on their feet.
> >
> >
> > Just a quick comment on this thought...My mother often mentioned that my
> > grandmother, who was 8 when the family came to ND from Kathreinfalva,
> > thought older children should be working instead of going to high
school.
> > Mother and her sisters had to turn their report cards over and present
it
> > ready to sign at the appropriate times. Mother simply repeatedly told
my
> > grandmother that it was law to send your children to school! Now I'm
> > saying this keeping in mind that I had a wonderful loving grandmother.
> > This simply was part of the attitude of her culture and time toward
> > children. Children also ate in the kitchen separate from the adults.
My
> > mother also said that when her brother came to visit, he being the
oldest
> > and my mother the youngest of eight, they were told to let him have his
> > pick of food first. This was during the depression when my mother and
her
> > sisters had little food on a daily bases. Just a demonstration of
another
> > biased attitude of time and culture!
> >
> > Sincerely
> >
>
> ______________________________


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