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From: "Karen Grossart" <>
Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Family ART(H) in Batschka
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 17:22:07 -0500
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Hi, Harald,
I have an ancestor from Crvenka: Barbara ART(H), b. 1861. She
married Adam GROSSART about 1880. They immigrated about 1903 with their
youngest son. Their daughter, b. ca.1883 was named Elizabeth. Her
daughters were Elizabeth and Katharine, but those are all common names.
There was an ARTH family in the 1828 Hungarian Land census:
#334: Jacob ARTH, 2 people - 1 farmer
#347: Jacob ARTH, 2 people - 1 Tenant, 1 worker
Unfortunately, there are no names beyond the owner and no ages.

I can not tie to either family since I have not been able to access
the Crvenka Lutheran church records and have no more information about
Barbara or her parents.
I also have some limited information about an ARTH family from
Mittelbollenbach in the Pfalz. This is near the area from which the ARTH
families which settled in Crvenka left. Those lines have not been connected
yet either.
Also, I thought that I had info on another ARTH who was thought as a
possible sister to Barbara ART but I can not find the data right now.

Karen Grossart at

----- Original Message -----
from Harald Ruppe
> One riddle solved, ten new questions
> After I have found Adam Ruppe some new questions arose.
> Some of those that can be of general interest to the list.
>
> The background: On the passenger list of his immigration ship is written
as
> nearest relative: "Elizabeth, mother, Feketic". Another remark is a
relative
> in the US: "Uncle Henry Bruckner".
> >From these remark I deduced: A.'s mother was Elisabeth R. (nee Brückner)
> sister of Heinrich Brückner, whose name I knew in the German writing from
> another context. o.K.?
> Now my new "cousine" says that she is named after her grandmother
Katharina
> Art. That should be A's mother. A clear contradiction.
> I checked the name ART. No entry in my books. But an immigrant family ARTH
is > known in Crvenka (only a few miles away from Feketic) in the 1780s.
> Now my questions:
> 2. Does anybody came across the name ART(H) in Feketic / Sekitsch or
Crvenka > 1850 ... 1930? Maybe a Katharina or Katharina Elisabeth?
> Any comment welcome.


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