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From: "Nick Tullius" <>
Subject: FW: [BANAT-L] Janitscharen - about carried off danubeswaben children in Yugoslawia after WW II
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 20:29:29 -0400


Y'all,

The janissaries (German: Janitscharen) were soldiers in an elite Ottoman
guard organized in the 14th century and abolished in 1826. During the
centuries that the Ottoman Turks occupied much of South-Eastern Europe, they
used to take some of the sons of local leaders (such as Wallachian princes)
to Istanbul. The purpose was to keep the local leaders from doing anything
disloyal to the Turks, and educate the 'hostage sons' in the Ottoman way of
life. Some of these sons joined the janissaries and ended up fighting
against their own people, and being fanatic about it.
The parallel with Tito's extermination camp is that some DS children were
"given" to Serbian, etc. families to be raised in their tradition, i.e.
essentially anti-DS.

Hope this helps a little,
Nick

-----Original Message-----
From: Rosina Schmidt [mailto:]
Sent: August 21, 2005 1:28 AM
To:
Subject: [BANAT-L] Janitscharen - about carried off danubeswaben children in
Yugoslawia after WW II


Janitscharen after WWII

Yes, it is correct that the Ottoman Janitscharies were abolished in 1826 but
the idea of janitscharen in the Balkans is still very much alive.

All those orphaned Donauschwaben's children were taken away from the
extended families by force by Tito's government to train the children into
solid Tito Communists. This book writes about that.

Rosina



----- Original Message -----
From: Teddy Forsyth
To:
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 10:07 PM
Subject: [BANAT-L] Re: Janitscharen - about carried off danubeswaben
children in Yugoslawia after WW II


--- Weissmueller <> wrote:
> Hallo members,
> above used booklet (but good condition), german, has
> over 70 pages;
> post-card-size ca. 18 x 11 cm.
> No alphabetical family-names inside !
> Thank you ver much - Werner Weissmüller
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Ottoman Janissaries were abolished in 1826 under
Mahmud II [1808-1839]. See also
http://www.allaboutturkey.com/yeniceri.htm

Or the booklet is talking about something else ...

T.



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