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From: "Bates, Christine P" <>
Subject: Re: [BLACK-DUTCH-AMERICA] goins family
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 07:11:11 -0800
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I hope this actually makes it to the list. Many have probably already
looked, but if you Google "The Dinsmore Collection", which is a
collection of books covering the Colonial Period, you can see what the
early historians thought the origin may be for the different ethnicities
along the Eastern/Southern U.S.
Some of the earlier books seem to think the Lost Colony group
assimilated with the natives in the area. One of the books has pictures
of some of the people with English surnames, probably about the 5th or
6th generation from
the landing, and interviews uncover that these people know their
origins.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Nassau [mailto:]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:35 AM
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Subject: Re: [BLACK-DUTCH-AMERICA] goins family

Goins, Goin, Goings, Going is a type name of the Melungeons
and several other mixed groups such as the Goinstown Indians
of Henry and Patrick counties, Virginia, and Rockingham, Stokes
and Surry counties, North Carolina.
Here are some links from the Open Directory Melungeon page:
Jack Goins Research - Dedicated to research on the northeast
Tennessee and southwest Virginia Melungeon communities.
Includes information on DNA research as well as information
about his book.
Gowen Research Foundation - Information on families with the name
Gowen, including variations. This includes the most common Melungeon
name, Goins, Goin, Goings, Going, and others. Search the newsletters.
Graysville Melungeons - An article on the anthropology of the
Melungeons of
Roane, Rhea and Hamilton counties, TN, locally known as Goins, from the
most
common name.
Black Dutch ( http://www.geocities.com/mikenassau/BlackDutch.htm ) -
Six different meanings for the term Black Dutch or Black German.
What is a Melungeon? - Description of several groups with this name.

Mike

Cindy McLaughlin <> wrote:
I may be stating something everyone knows already, but I read that
Goins (and its variations) is a Melungeon name. What is the connectionm
if any, between Meluneons and Black Dutch?
Cindy McLaughlinDripping Springs TX > From: > To:
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 06:38:55 +0000>
Subject: [BLACK-DUTCH-AMERICA] goins family> > I too have that newspaper
article about the Goins family. I'll have to dig it out, and re-read it.
I grew up in that Texas area,near Denton. If I remember rightly, the
grandmother died, and the family found old handwritten documents, and
photos she had saved, and hid under the bed, or in the wall--don't
remember which. There are probably some of the family still living in
that little town who know all of this. My maternal grandmother was
called 'black dutch'. She never mentioned it, but some of the family
did. Her family were from TN, She married, and they migrated to TX,
where we were all born and raised. She had long coal black hair, eyes,
and a dark skin tone. She always said that she didn't know much about
her family history. I was able to trace back and find an old census-type
document that listed her mother as indian(cherokee). Her husband had
been married before, and that wife was also listed as indian. They had 3
children who, when she died of an illness, wer!> e raised by the 2nd
wife. My Mother, and her 4 sisters were also dark, with back, coarse
hair, and brown eyes. My Dad had blue eyes and light hair--so I
inheirited his lighter skin, but my Mother's dark hair. My Dad was a
descendant of Quanah Parker's white wife-Cynthia Ann Parker. I have all
of those genealogy records,but my Mother's maternal side remains a
mystery. Her Father's side--the Baileys--I have their records too. Her
grandfather also married an indian lady, referred to as 'grandma Patsy",
in old family letters. I think if your ancestors settled in TN, than
most likely you can find indian blood. It was common that early, single
men settlers married indian women. alot of them were beautiful, and
white women were scarce. Roberta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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