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From: Bill <>
Subject: Re: [BOARD-L] MOTION 02-23--AMENDMENT 2
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 23:30:08 -0500
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How does recording the vote of the members of the AB make the EC partisan? If
the voting results of the AB are to be make a matter of record, then it should
not matter that the EC has knowledge of our votes. It will all come out once
both sets of votes are tallied. They actually serve as a watchdog, an oversight
committee, if you will. They insure the validity of both sets of votes. If we
trust them to hold a general election, replacement polls, we certainly can trust
them to hold a removal vote of both CCs and AB members. ONLY the AB member
votes will eventually become a matter of public record.

All the EC is requested to do is to hold secret the votes of the AB members
until other votes are tallied in order to minimize any influence the AB might
have on the CC vote and vice-versa.

I cannot see where that violates any by-law. Each AB members vote will be
recorded in our public site.

The amendment has the taste of taking individual personality out of the voting
process. In fact it is even greater than any of our normal votes; we will not
see each other's votes until the final disclosure. Wow!

Thank you for your concern and comments.

Bill Oliver
NW/Plains CC Rep
<R+R-R=R+R>
-=-

Tina S Vickery wrote:

> My concern is now for the Elections Committee. The Election committee
> was formed and has functioned as a non-partisan committee of the
> USGenWeb Project. The results of their work is reported in totals
> only. The individual voting record is not known to them, nor should
> it ever be. That is how it should remain.
>
> The conducting of the vote for the AB portion should be in the form of
> a motion on Board-L per the USGenWeb Project Bylaws. I also feel that
> the tally of the vote of an XXGenWeb Project should be withheld until
> the completion of the vote of the AB, and at the time both are
> complete, the result posted to Board-L.
>
> Tina Vickery
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard (Isaiah) Harrison" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:17 PM
> Subject: [BOARD-L] MOTION 02-23--AMENDMENT 2
>
> > It has been moved by Phyllis and seconded by Bill that Section C of Motion
> > 02-23 be amended from:
> >
> > C. Regardless of which entity begins the process, the National
> Coordinator,
> > upon receipt of the response (if any), will immediately send a copy of the
> > reasons for removal and the response (if any) to the Election Committee,
> > instructing the Committee to conduct a vote within the State and within
> the
> > Advisory Board, simultaneously, asking the question "Shall [Name and
> Title]
> > be removed from office?" Choices are to be "Yes", "No", "Present".
> Included
> > with this question will be the reason(s) for removal and the response (if
> > any). The voting period will be 10 days in length.
> >
> > To:
> >
> > C. Regardless of which entity begins the process, the National
> Coordinator,
> > upon receipt of the response (if any), will immediately send a copy of the
> > reasons for removal and the response (if any) to the Election Committee,
> > instructing the Committee to conduct a vote within the State and within
> the
> > Advisory Board, simultaneously, asking the question "Shall [Name and
> Title]
> > be removed from office?" Choices are to be "Yes", "No", "Present".
> Included
> > with this question will be the reason(s) for removal and the response (if
> > any). The voting period will be 10 days in length.
> > After tallying the votes, the EC shall send the results to the National
> > Coordinator for posting to Board-L. The results must include the names and
> > votes of the Advisory Board members, but the votes of the CCs will be
> > reported only as numbers.
> >
> > Discussion, please.
> >
> > -Isaiah
> >
> >
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> > http://www.usgenweb.com/official/standing-procedures.html
> >
>
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