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From: "Don Kelly" <>
Subject: Re: [BOARD-L] MNIGS
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:00:17 -0700
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Yes, but with monstrous difficulty.

States have different standards for declaring members nigs, and that is
only the first rub.

Fairness begins when 50 states interpret nigs the same way, and the
ramifications of being nigs the same way.

What will ultimately issue from 50 consistent applications of the rule,
is that one declared nigs by state can appeal the finding to the AB.

If nigs is sustained, the appellant is automatically nigs at the federal
level.

But it all turns on whether or not USGW agrees with the XXGenWeb
declaration of nigs.

This is a necessary step because: Some states don't have the nigs rule,
and other states and individuals use the rule as a baseball bat.

Meanwhile, AB review could level the playing field for CCs

Don


----- Original Message -----
From: "Phyllis Rippee" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:06 AM
Subject: [BOARD-L] MNIGS


> The way things currently stand, a member who has been declared not in
good
> standing by the Advisory Board is not effected in any way in the
XXGenWeb
> Project of which he/she is a member. The only thing that being
declared
> mnigs on the national level is to not be allowed to run for national
office
> as long as mnigs remains in effect. Indeed, the only thing that the
> Advisory Board can do is set steps by which the mnigs may regain good
> standing.
>
> As I have stated to this Board before, if the reverse situation is
made any
> different, then we have come up with a double standard. That is, if a
> member is declared mnigs in XXGenWeb Project, that member should
remain
> eligible for running for office on a national level, as well as fully
> participating in other XXGenWeb Projects where that person is also a
member.
>
> The bylaws are clear on what constitutes a member not in good
standing....up
> to a point. That point is where it says (paraphrasing) doing
something in
> violation of the guidelines and standards of the Project. And, when
you get
> into what are the "standards" of the Project........my standards may
be
> different from your standards, so which of us is right?
>
> So, the way I see it, one of our tasks is to define "standards". The
other
> task is to come up with steps that the mnigs can follow to have mnigs
> lifted.
>
> Then, comes the question....can we establish a policy on mnigs that
will
> "fit" on both the State and national level?
>
> Phyllis Rippee
> SW/SC CC Representative
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