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Subject: Re: [BRE] John Younce Family of North Carolina
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:24:30 +0000 (UTC)
Thank you for pointing out this difficulty. I'm not able to address it from the standpoint of offering any possible solution. I don't know the source of Don Bowman's or Margaret Younce Zdunic's sources. Someone on the list might be able to reach Don Bowman by email. Did Mr Bowman leave copies of his extensive research into Ohio families with the Brethren Heritage Center?
I had some correspondence with Margaret, but her main focus was on marking Philip and Margaret Younce's grave site in Miami County. Her sources of information included, but probably were not limited to, older members of her Younce family in that area.
I also had very brief correspondence with Don Bowman, mostly on other families. On April 23, 1992, Don Bowman wrote to thank me for a letter of the previous September, which included a historical sketch of the Younce family. Mr Bowman mentions a 1912 article that I apparently sent which makes no mention of the tradition that Philip Younce marched with Gen. Anthony Wayne in 1794. He states a feeling that was impossible "...if he were born in 1792 rather than c 1775 as outlined in the enclosed article from the 1920 History of the Church of the Brethren in Southern Ohio..." So in 1992 Don Bowman thought Philip Younce was born in 1792, which would be more likely to have been Ashe Co.
By the way, the article on Philip YOunce may have been one written by a descendant in a book about notable citizens of Indianapolis and vicinity. I don't have a copy of the article in front of me, but my FTM notes say:
"...Nowland, John F., Commemmorative Biographical Records of Citizens o f
Indpls and Vicinity, page 355: "Philip was a cooper by trade; they removed to
KY 1809;...Philip Younce later sold his original homestead, and in
company with his son-in-law, Henry Hammel, purchased another in the same
county, which they later sold, moving to another property near Covington, where
Mr. Younce died in his eightieth year."
Regarding the date of Philip Younce's birth, my resource has been census records. They merely report NC as the state of birth.
We all know census reports can be flawed, depending on many factors including personal memory. Philip Younce reported on the 1850 census, taken on October 1st, that he was age 61. Ten years later he reported on the 1860 census, taken on 9 July, that he was 70. Philip's birth date may be between 10 July through 30 September, but we may have no other evidence to confirm that.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dwayne Wrightsman
Sent: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:38:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [BRE] John Younce Family of North Carolina
Here's a situation that I hope someone can address:
Two articles (one by Don Bowman and the other by Margaret Younce Zdunic) in
the Brethren Encyclopedia say that Elder Philip Younce was born in Ashe
County, North Carolina. The Bowman article says in c1789.
Philip Younce's father, John Younce, was not listed in the 1787 state census
for Wilkes/Ashe County, nor in the 1790 federal census for Wilkes/Ashe
County, but he was listed in the 1790 federal census for Randolph County,
N.C., where the Moravians and the Brethren lived in the area between the
Yadkin and the Uwharry. It was there that John Younce married Margaret
Tesch. According to North Carolina Brethren researcher John Scott
Davenport, Moravian records indicate that John Younce was active in Randolph
County until 1792. Davenport states that he did not settle in Wilkes/Ashe
until late 1792, when his name started appearing in the Wilkes/Ashe tax
How could Elder Philip Younce have been born in Wilkes/Ashe three years
prior to when his father and mother settled in Wilkes/Ashe?
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