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From: Hugh Watkins <>
Subject: Re: [B&D] Marriage of Michael & Ann YOUNG
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:26:30 +0100
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In-Reply-To: <5E91BF1725D24C808E38502676564827@VOYDAB05FEC6E>


marriages in church appear in the GRO civil registration also

some very experienced users can spot which parish and use the number
as an index to the parish register marriages

Hugh W

On 23 Jan 2009, at 08:00, Polly Rubery wrote:

> Hi Nancy
>
>>> All of the 1841 records contain two sets of scans. One is the
>>> original
> handwritten parish records, the other is the Bishop's Transcripts.
> I cannot
> tell which one was used, but I would think that somebody is working
> on the
> other one right now.<<
>
> Please can you explain what you mean here, as I am confused, as you
> seem to be talking about the GRO
> index, but that has nothing to do with parish registers or bishops'
> transcripts?
> Cheers
> Polly
>
> If you are sure Ann YOUNG married Michael YOUNG they do not both
> appear in
> either set in the 1st Qtr of 1843. In the second set you will find
> the
> Michael YOUNG of the citation I sent you earlier who may have
> married Ann
> O'RILEY. My conclusion is that this is not the marriage of your
> couple if
> they are Ann & Michael YOUNG before marriage. Are you sure of that
> fact?
>
> There is a citation for the marriage of Hannah YOUNG 2nd Qtr 1843,
> Vol 11,
> Pg 73 and on that same page John YOUNG.
>
> There is another citation for the marriage of Ann YOUNG in Bristol
> 3rd Qtr
> 1843, Vol 11, Pg 213, but there is no Michael YOUNG in that quarter
> either.
>
> When I looked at the 4th Qtr scans I found that the PR scans only
> went up to
> W. But the Bishops Transcript scans contained Y. They contained
> several
> Anns but no Michael.
>
> So if you are sure of your facts, they did not marry in 1843.
>
> By direct eMails I am sending copies of all the scans.
>
> Sorry I couldn't find them for you.
>
> Regards,
>
> Nancy Frey
> Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA
> OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset
> Moderator of Yahoo! Catsash Group
> Moderator of Yahoo! WestWiltshire Group
> Moderator of Yahoo! FULFORD_North Devon Group
> Moderator of Yahoo! DAVIDGE Connections Group
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Liz" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 3:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [B&D] Marriage of Michael & Ann YOUNG (was -
> JobYOUNGbirthcertificate)
>
>
>> Thank you Nancy. If you look at the 1st quarter 1843 - there is
>> an Ann
>> YOUNG but there is one male short! The Ann YOUNG was married in the
>> Bedminster area and I am hoping that's actually going to be a
>> marriage up
>> in
>> Winford. I dare not send for any more certificates at the
>> moment...they
>> are
>> taking all my pension! I received 3 this morning, OK one of them
>> will be
>> reimbursed but they are mounting up! If I was sure that was the
>> right one
>> I
>> would send for it.
>> Yes, I know I'll get part of my money back if it wasn't the right
>> one...but
>> I'd still be curious to know who that Ann YOUNG married!
>>
>> Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -----------
>> Marriages Mar 1843 (>99%)
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -----------
>>
>> COLEMAN Eliza Bedminster 11 71
>> HILL Sophia Bedminster 11 71
>> HILLIER William Bedminster 11 71
>> MILLARD William Bedminster 11 71
>> RIDLER William Bedminster 11 71
>> VENMAN Elizabeth Bedminster 11 71
>> YOUNG Ann Bedminster 11 71
>>
>> I have looked at the GRO and there is no Michael YOUNG on
>> there...but,
>> just
>> because he is missing, I am not convinced that he's not the one.
>> It will
>> certainly be Bedminster because they never travelled far, the
>> family were
>> just Ag Labs and I know they were still up there in the 1960s. Of
>> course,
>> we didn't realise they were family in those days but we visited a
>> house
>> that
>> was for sale...didn't buy it as mortgage societies would only lend to
>> modern
>> properties in those days.
>>
>> Thanks Nancy.
>>
>> Liz
>> www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery
>> OPC for Street, Somerset
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Nancy Frey" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [B&D] Marriage of Michael & Ann YOUNG (was - Job
>> YOUNGbirthcertificate)
>>
>>
>>> Hi Liz,
>>>
>>> Can you give me the citation for Ann YOUNG from the FreeBMD?
>>> Then I can
>>> look at the originals from which we (I transcribe for FreeBMD) are
>>> working
>>> and see if her husband has been mistranscribed.
>>>
>>> The only one I could find was Ann O'RILEY may have married a Michael
>>> YOUNG
>>> 1st Qtr 1843 Newcastle T. Vol 25, Pg 318. Is that the marriage
>>> you are
>>> referring to?
>>>
>>> Regards,Nancy Frey
>>> Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA
>>> OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset
>>> Moderator of Yahoo! Catsash Group
>>> Moderator of Yahoo! WestWiltshire Group
>>> Moderator of Yahoo! FULFORD_North Devon Group
>>> Moderator of Yahoo! DAVIDGE Connections Group
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Liz" <>
>>> To: <>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 1:42 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [B&D] Marriage of Michael & Ann YOUNG (was - Job YOUNG
>>> birthcertificate)
>>>
>>>
>>>> No, I don't think so. She is there as Ann YOUNG born in 1823 so
>>>> as she
>>>> would have married Michael in 1843 I don't feel she was married
>>>> before.
>>>> I
>>>> can find a marriage on FreeBMD for an Ann YOUNG but there is a male
>>>> missing!
>>>> I looked at the GRO which has now been typed recently....more
>>>> chance for
>>>> errors again!
>>>>
>>>> I am sure this is a first marriage for both of them. It would
>>>> not be
>>>> the
>>>> first time one of the YOUNGs at Winford had married a first cousin.
>>>> Liz
>>>> www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery
>>>> OPC for Street, Somerset
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Charani" <>
>>>> To: <>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:24 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [B&D] Marriage of Michael & Ann YOUNG (was - Job YOUNG
>>>> birth
>>>> certificate)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Liz wrote:
>>>>>> I've heard from Weston Registrar's office and I gather they
>>>>>> can't give
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> marriage certificate for Michael YOUNG and Ann YOUNG -
>>>>>> possibly in
>>>>>> Winford
>>>>>> or close as it would take too long to look at every parish in the
>>>>>> area.
>>>>>
>>>>> Might Ann have been married before?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Charani (UK)
>>>>> OPC for Walton, SOM
>>>>> http://wsom-opc.org.uk
>>>>>
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