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From: "Dave" <>
Subject: Re: [B&D] Henry Charles Eyles
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:27:16 -0000
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Thanks for all the information you've given me Glen. You've given me plenty
of food for thought.

David

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glen Shipley" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [B&D] Henry Charles Eyles


> On 25 Mar 2011 at 9:37, Glen Shipley wrote:
>
>> On 24 Mar 2011 at 17:26, Dave wrote:
>>
>> > I wonder of somebody with access to the 1891 would look to see if
>> > Henry Eyles was living at Midland Road, St. Philips and also if
>> > there were any siblings living with him and also if his mother was
>> > there also. I do not know Henry's mother's name as I cannot find a
>> > birth on Free BMD. His father was Sidney Joseph Eyles who had died
>> > before Henry's wedding later in 1891.
>> >
>> > Many thanks
>> >
>> > David Blackmore >
>>
>> I feel obliged to point out that if you can't afford a subscription to
>> either Ancestry or Findmypast, then the online censuses are available
>> gratis in many public libraries.
>>
>> However, having said that, Henry Chas Eyles is found on the 1901
>> census at 8 Victoria Road, Bristol, sub-district of St George, with
>> wife Elizabeth and three children aged between 8 and 4. His birthplace
>> is shown as Bristol, the year 1870, but that could be out by a year or
>> so either side. He was a general labourer. FreeBMD suggests his wife
>> whom he married in 1891 was Elizabeth Coole.
>>
>> So far I cannot find him in 1891 but in the 1881 census there is a
>> HARRY EYLES, born 1870 Bristol, who was a boarder at an institution
>> called "City School or Queen Elizabeth Hospital, Lower Berkeley Place,
>> Bristol St Augustine". The fact that he was boarding away from home in
>> either a school or hospital suggests some family trauma. Maybe he had
>> been orphaned or something.
>>
>> I cannot find a Sidney Joseph Eyles who you say was his father, either
>> at FreeBMD or in the censuses. Did you get this from the marriage
>> certificate and presumably it says "deceased" on it? I should point
>> out, further, that if Henry/Harry was actually born illegitimate, then
>> it was fairly common for someone in that position to invent a father
>> purely for the sake of respectability!
>>
>> You should also consider the possibility that he was born in some
>> other name and his mother subsequently married someone called Eyles.
>>
>> These are all factors which you must take into account.
>>
>> Glen >
>
> Further to the above, I believe I have now found Henry in 1891. He has
> been indexed at
> FMP as Henry C ELLES but looking at the image suggests it was actually
> EYLES.
>
> He was at 17 Sherbourne St, St George, described as a labourer, born 1870
> at Bristol,
> and he was the stepson of a Thomas PARKER, 61, labourer, born at St
> George.
> Thomas's wife was Annie Parker, aged 50, born Frome, Somerset. There were
> also two
> boys of 10 and 9, both born St George who appear to have been the full
> sons of Thomas
> and Annie Parker.
>
> This suggests to me that Henry's mother was Annie and she was either
> previously
> married or had Henry illegitimately, then subsequently married Thomas
> Parker.
>
> Next step: FreeBMD has the likely marriage at Bristol in the June qtr of
> 1879 of THOMAS
> PARKER and ANNIE ISLES [sic] (vol 6a page 69). It's possibly worth getting
> that
> certificate to discover who Annie was and whether ISLES was her maiden
> name or a
> previously married name.
>
> My invoice is in the post !!!
>
> Glen
>
>
>
>
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