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From: "Derek & Rosemary Wenzerul" <>
Subject: Fw: [British Jewry] Ketubah, is lookup possible?
Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 08:44:35 +0100
> Dear Mary and Sherry
> For info: I wrote an article in Shemot (JGSGB's Journal) on Marriage
Records and the
> following is an extract of that article - I hope it is of help.
> "If a person doesn't have the Ketubah of a deceased relative and needs the
> details of the marriage, then the Marriage Authorisation Department of the
> Office of the Chief Rabbi should be contacted. It is important that the
> following information is given: husband's name, wife's maiden name and
> married, once this information has been received, then a copy of the
> authorisation (not Ketubah) will be issued. (see below)
> In recent years, the United Synagogue has asked Synagogue Secretary's for
> Marriages to keep duplicate copies of Ketubot. However, if the Synagogue
> hasn't got a copy, the United Synagogue will only re-issue a Ketubah on
> application to Rabbi Dr. Julian Shindler by the husband (an appointment
> to be made to see him.) If you require a copy of say your
> great-grandparent's Ketubah this is not possible as the U.S. will not
> re-issue Ketubot from couples who have died as the Ketubah is no longer
> Having said this, it is well worth a try. If you ask for the Marriage
> Authorisation Form it has far more information on it than the Ketubah will
> have. It is ages since I requested a copy for myself and I can't remember
whether they charged for this - I think they probably did. It is sensible
to check first with them.
If anyone doesn't know what a marriage authorisation form looks like, I
would be happy to attach a copy (privately) to them.
> Hope this is of help.
> With best wishes
> Rosemary Wenzerul (from VERY wet, cold and windy England - our Summer!!)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sherry Landa" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 7:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [British Jewry] Ketubah, is lookup possible?
> Hi Mary,
> Fax the London Beth Din, marking your fax for the attention of Charles
> Tucker archivist and giving the details you have given us. Their number is
> +44 208 343 6257 expect to pay about £16 unless you have other things to
> to the order. You probably won't get mush more than the Hebrew names
> will include the father's first name) the date and place and the fact that
> the parties were not related to each other. You should also get
> as to who proved their *validity* to marry and the details of the groom's
> brothers. You MIGHT get a *native of* section too. You won't get the
> mothers' names for sure and unless they were using two names at the time
> won't get a change of name.
> Mail me off-list if you have difficulties and I will try to help (although
> my fax machine blew up last night-I may have a way round it).
> BTW Good luck in SOO2 I hope you maroons blow them blues away-Dad's army
> not :-)
> Best wishes,
> Sherry Landa Joint List *Owner*
> Is it possible to do a Ketubah lookup and would any kind person be able?.
> SAMUEL Morris Lewis
> COHEN Amelia (Fanny)
> Married, 27 Aug. 1845.
> Place.....28 Harley St., Marylebone. London.
> Officiator ...Chief Rabbi N. Adler.
> I'd like to know any extra details such as actual place of birth and names
> of parents, or even original name, as it was posiblely changed to SAMUEL.