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THE BURGENLAND BUNCH NEWS -No. 79B
DEDICATED TO AUSTRIAN-HUNGARIAN BURGENLAND FAMILY HISTORY
(issued biweekly by
April 30, 2000



This third section of the 3 section newsletter continues the immigrant travel
subject introduced in newsletter 79A and contains articles concerning
Shipping Agents in Burgenland Villages, Major Ports of Departure and Ports of
Entry. It also includes articles More District Maps & Storks in Güssing, Hizi
Atlasz for Vas, Moson, Györ, Sopron Megye and URL & Member Changes.

SHIPPING AGENTS IN BURGENLAND VILLAGES

I recently thought that an important piece of the immigrant itinerary puzzle
would be to know the shipping line(s) which had agents in or close to
villages of origin. In the book "Nach Amerika", Burgenländischen
Landesausstellung, 1992 Burg Güssing; Felix Tobler of Eisenstadt has written
a chapter called "Schiffahrtsgesellschaften im Burgenland 1921-1938", which
translates literally to the title of this article. He lists the villages and
names of the shipping lines having village agents during this period.

A Burgenländer interested in emigrating would most likely contact someone
where he lived. Many of the agents were also Gasthaus Wirts or other local
business people known to him. There were also cases where passage was
arranged by friends or relatives who had already migrated, and they in turn
would have made local arrangements. As stated before, such arrangements could
often be "portal to portal", surface and ocean transport all included. All
lines also had agents or offices in Vienna, Budapest, Graz, Sopron,
Szombathely and other major cities.

The following villages, shipping line agents (for North American routes
only-some may also have provided South Americcan service), and time frame
were extracted from "Nach Amerika":

Neusiedl am See -Königlich Holländischer Lloyd-1923-24
-American Line-1925-26

Eisenstadt -Transatlantica Italiana- 1924-28
-Königlich Holländischer Lloyd- 1925-26

Pinkafeld -Lloyd Sabaudo -1929-30

Oberwart -American Line-1924-25
-Königlich Holländischer Lloyd-1927-32
-Red Star Line-1930-34
-White Star Line-1930-35
-Cunard Line-1930-35
-Canadian Pacific Railway-1930-?
-Royal Mail Lines-1936-38

Grosspetersdorf -Navagazione Generale Itlaiana-1923-27
-Lloyd Triestino-1923-25,1938
-Cosulich Line-1936-38

Güssing -Österreichische Rhederei A. G.-1922
-Hamburg-Amerika Line (HAPAG)-1922-38
-United American Lines-1922-1938
-North German Lloyd-1922-1938
-United States Lines-1922-24
-Royal Mail Line-1922-1930
-Holland-Amerika-1922-?
-Red Star Line-1923-1930
-White Star-1923-30
-American Line-1923-1924
-Cunard Line-1922-1930
-Cunard White Star Ltd.-1935-38
-Compagnie Gen. Transatlantique-1922-1938
-Societe Gen. de Transport Maritimes-1922-24
-Cosulich Line-1925-27


MAJOR PORTS OF DEPARTURE

Ports of departure changed as surface and ocean transportation changed, thus
it is difficult to be absolutely sure of an emigrant's port of departure
without finding his name on a ship's manifest. We can follow some general
guides however, as the following statistics indicate. (from "Nach Amerika",
Burgenländischen Landesausstellung, 1992, Burg Güssing).

Prior to 1918, the the majority of Austro-Hungarian emigrants left from the
following ports as the numbers indicate:

Hamburg & Bremen- 2,389,325
Rotterdam & Antwerp- 653,613
Le Havre- 89,335

Some emigrants from the southern parts (including most of central and eastern
Hungary) left from:

Genoa- 96,038
Trieste- 76,849
Fiume (Rijeka)- 242,470

In the period 1820-1924, the United States received 33,188,000 immigrants.
During the period 1846-1924, 4,878,000 left Austria-Hungary. The ports were
busy places. (data from "Crossings"-see below).

Notice that Cherbourg, a major continental port for British and American
lines is not listed, indicating that prior to 1918, European (continental)
shipping lines may have carried most of the immigrants. I would assume from
this that it wasn't until after WWI, that British and American lines became a
major factor in direct Burgenland immigrant transatlantic crossings. This is
also supported by the dates when their shipping agents were active in the
Burgenland. It is known; however, that Cunard Line's AQUITANIA (built 1914,
46M tons, service speed 23 knots, 3230 passengers-1998 of which were third
class) carried Austro/Hungarian emigrants from the ports of Antwerp, Trieste
and Fiume (Rijeka). There must have been others that used continental or
Mediteranian and Adriatic ports. If any member has further information
concerning ports used by British and American lines, please contact me.

Walter Nugent in "Crossings", Indianna Univ. Press, 1995, also indicates that
many migrants from north European ports, during the period 1871-1914,
traveled "indirect"-crossing the North Sea to Harwich, England and then by
rail to Liverpool, leaving there for their transatlantic crossing on British
or American ships.

Ships operating out of Mediterranean ports (mostly French, Italian and Greek
Lines) were noted for their poor facilities. One journalist traveling as an
immigrant from Naples wrote of worms in the food, stuffy, stinking bunks and
the hot and fetid atmosphere of a compartment holding 150 seasick men (in
steerage and third class, women were often segregated). It appears that the
majority of our Burgenländers taking the northern routes may have been more
fortunate.



PORTS OF ENTRY

If you were to guess that New York was the port of entry for your Burgenland
ancestor, you'd probably be right most of the time. However if your ancestors
arrived before 1880 or in the late 1920's, or if they settled in the West or
Midwest, or in the deep South, there is a possibility that another port might
have been involved.

In 1986, the Balch Institute for Ethnic Studies (Philadelphia, PA) held a
conference entitled "Freedom's Doors: The Other Ports of Entry to the United
States". This resulted in a series of essays edited by M. Mark Stolarik and
published by The Balch Institute Press, 1988. Some of what follows has been
extracted from that source.

While recognizing New York as the major US port (and certainly the major port
of entry for Burgenländers) the essays offer as alternatives the ports of
Boston, Philadelphia and Baltimore as well as Miami, New Orleans, San
Francisco and Los Angeles. To this I would add Galveston (prior to 1861)
since I know of at least one "Germanic" group who arrived through this port
in 1850. It included Chrisine (sic) Berghold, age 20, Fried, age 45, Jacob,
age 28 and Ludwig age 18. I've not been able to link them to my family and
from their given names I'd guess they were either north Germans or Austrians
from Styria. It is well established that there were (are) Germanic enclaves
in Texas.

We can't determine which of the above ports may have been used by
Burgenländers since statistics merge Austrians with Germans and Hungarians
with "eastern Europeans" (a common Burgenland ethnic research irritant since
we have a foot on both sides of the border); however, we can still get some
guidance, based on other known factors, among them being the shipping lines
using particular ports. Referring to the previous article concerning ships in
excess of 15M tons, we can see that most berthed in New York although some
either continued on to Boston or arrived in Boston. I would also assume that
ships under 15M tons might be more prone to using Philadelphia or Baltimore
due to bay and inland waterway restrictions. While ships as large as the
Queen Elizabeth II (66M tons) as well as mammoth US Navy carriers have
berthed in Philadelphia and Baltimore, there are navigation difficulties. The
Delaware Bay and River Channels are narrow and shallow as are the Chesapeake
Bay shipping lanes. Some comments concerning these "other doors":


BOSTON

This was a destination for ships from Liverpool, going well back in the age
of sail, which carried a large number of English and Irish (Boston population
was 75% Irish in the 1850's) immigrants as evidenced by the heavy
concentration of those ethnic groups still found in the area. There may have
been a minor Germanic element, but there is not a Burgenland enclave to my
knowledge. Since some German shipping firms included Boston in their
scheduled sailings I would expect it may have been the destination for
Burgenländers headed to the interior or even to Canada. A good possibility
for "indirect" crossings.

PHILADELPHIA

Another port, which in the age of sail, saw thousands of Palatinate emigrants
(so called Penna.-Dutch) arriving by sail beginning 1727 and continuing well
into the 1800's. Rupp, in his book "30 Thousand Names" lists the Palatinate
surnames found in hundreds of ship manifests. There undoubtedly are a few
Hungarians and Austrians in this group although most are Swiss, Rhine Hesse,
Würtemburgers, Bavarians, etc.

It was with the coming of the steamship that Philadelphia emerged as another
major port of immigration for central Europeans. In the late 1800's, the
American Line was founded by the Pennsylvania Railroad and opened an
immigrant station in South Philadelphia. Their ship the OHIO, began an
immigrant service, Liverpool to Philadelphia. Three other steamers, the
PENNSYLVANIA, INDIANA and ILLINOIS joined the fleet. Later the KENSINGTON,
SOUTHWARK, HAVERFORD and MERION joined them and immigrant entry peaked at 20M
per year. The service was leased to the White Star Line in 1921. The Red Star
Line connected Philadelphia to Antwerp in 1873 and operated until WWI. The
Allan Line began service from Glasgow in 1884. The Hamburg American Line
started service from Hamburg, which would have carried the bulk of the
Austro/Hungarian immigrants wishing to go to Philadelphia. By WWI, four ships
sailed regularly with a stop in Boston. Other lines like Holland America,
Italia and North German Lloyd followed suit. Following WWI, quota
restrictions gradually put a stop to wholesale immigration and operations
gradually ceased. A number of post WWII refugees and a smaller group of
Hungarian freedom fighter refugees in the 1950's were also processed through
Philadelphia.

Living and working in Wilmington, Delaware at the time, I had occasion in the
1960's to visit Philadelphia and drive through the closed and abandoned
immigrant dock areas. I t was always a most haunting experience, thinking of
the large numbers of immigrants who had filed through those vast warehouses.
On a misty, foggy day with the river traffic sounding foghorns, you could
almost see the immigrants embarking.


BALTIMORE

Frequently used as an early gateway to the American west, more ships carrying
immigrants arrived there than its situation at the head of Chesapeake Bay
would suggest. By 1830 there were firm trade links with Liverpool and Bremen.
There was a German Society, whose president Albert Schumacher helped create a
link between German steamship lines and the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad. In
1867, the B&O signed an agreement with the North German Lloyd to allow
immigrants to purchase a ticket that would carry them across the Atlantic by
ship and then west by train. If your ancestor settled in the west (without an
eastern stay), there's a good possibility he came via Baltimore. Steamer
BALTIMORE arrived with first shipload of such immigrants in 1868.
Hamburg-American and Baltimore Mail Lines followed suit. An Immigration
Station was established at Locust Point. A large hostel (boarding house) was
located nearby-cost of room and board 75 cents/day while waiting for rail
transport. By 1913, immigrants averaged 40M per year.


MIAMI

Mostly received immigrants from the Caribbean, Bahama, Cuba and Haiti.


NEW ORLEANS

Much immigration occurred between 1820 and 1860, about 550,000 immigrants.
Cotton ships traveling to Liverpool, Le Havre, Bremen and Hamburg needed
return cargo and found it in human cargo. It was a longer voyage but cheaper
(travelers' market) and a good route to the American frontier. A German
Society to protect immigrants was formed in 1847. Croats from Dalmatia
(Trieste area) came in the 1850's. Following the Civil War, Caribbean and
Mediterranean immigrants made up most of the diminished traffic.

SAN FRANCISCO-LOS ANGELES

Mostly Asian and Hispanic ethnic groups.



MORE MAPS & STORKS IN GÜSSING (from Klaus Gerger)

In addition to expanding his district village map series (Jennersdorf,
Güssing and Neusiedl are now complete, Eisenstadt is next), Klaus informs me
that the total Güssing stork population is increasing. Klaus writes: <<
Thanks for the data, the new map may be seen at
http://members.1012surfnet.at/gerger/Map/VillageMaps.htm#Neusiedl .

.... As you wrote the storks select a high place with free sight and space
(for the first flight attempts of the youngsters). In Güssing there are 6 to
8 nests (at the Kloster, Auswanderermuseum, Alte Molkerei, (old dairy)
vis-á-vis "Hianzn Stüberl", vis-á-vis Grabenstraße 17 [my parents], ...). In
Güssing the storks like the Fischteich (pond south of the castle which is
now a fish farm) best. On my homepage you can see 3 pics of Güssing storks:

1. taken from Burg Güssing, the storks are out for dinner
http://members.1012surfnet.at/gerger/stork3.gif
2. most time they have two eggs, but this year ..
http://members.1012surfnet.at/gerger/storch1.jpg
3. taken in Neustift (Heidi's mother) 13 !! storks following a tractor
http://members.1012surfnet.at/gerger/storks2.jpg

Next map will be Eisenstadt, but this will take a while. Regards Klaus >>

HISZI ATLAS FOR VAS and SOPRON, MOSON, GYÖR MEGYE

We mentioned these atlases in previous issues and Fritz Konigshofer
provided data for a few of the immediate border villages. Recently Fritz sent
me copies of the two atlases mentioned, having hand carried them back from
Budapest. They are extremely well done publications on a scale of 1:20 000,
in color, data in Hungarian, German and English. The Vas Atlasz is ISBN:
963-610-026-8. Distributor address is Vallakozoi Kozpont, 9700 Szombathely,
Petofi S. u. 1/b, Hungary. The Sopron Atlasz is ISBN 963-610-031-4.
Distributor address is ATLASZ Terkep-es Konyvkiado Bt., 9023 Györ, Szigethy
Attila u. 78/A, Hungary. The publisher address is Kiadja: HISZI-MAP KFT, 5700
Gyula, Corvin u. 3, Hungary. Price for each is 2500 Hungarian forints (plus
postage).

I haven't tried but some of the larger bookstores may be able to order
copies. You might also try writing the publisher or distributor. If anyone is
successful in doing this, please let me know so I can share the procedure
with the membership. Please don't ask Fritz to get copies for you as his
travels take him many other places besides Hungary and books quickly add to
luggage weight.

Most villages are covered, some as small as 23 inhabitants (Nemesmedves).
Where not covered you'll find they've been incorporated with other villages.
There is a brief history of each village, mention of churches and historic
buildings with a pictorial map of the village and its coat of arms. Zip code
and area code are shown. The Sopron atlas has some enlarged histories as well
as village pictures.

The atlases are spiral bound, printed on good quality heavy glossy paper,
using vivid colored ink. They are a very welcome addition to my library and
many thanks to Fritz for his courtesy. I'll now be able to provide some data
for Hungarian Burgenland border villages. Next to the Kirsner & Peternell
Burgenland Bezirk books, they will undoubtedly become the most well thumbed
books in my Burgenland library.


BURGENLAND BUNCH INTERNET LINKS - ADDITIONS, REVISIONS 4/30/00
(from Internet/URL Editor Anna Tanczos Kresh)

AUSTRIAN, AUSTRO-HUNGARIAN INTERNET LINKS
o Austrian Genealogy eGroup <http://atgen.tsx.org>; - (site under development)
message forum; plans for ability to hold online chats and voice conferences;
other resources (Franz Hrazdira)

AUSTRIAN, BURGENLAND RADIO/MUSIC SOURCES (added "radio" to category title)
o AudioOnDemand <http://www.wrn.org/ondemand/>; - on demand radio from
Austria, Hungary, Slovakia, the Vatican, and many more (each site offers
multiple languages)(previously broken link has been restored)

BURGENLAND INTERNET LINKS
o Thermenwelt Burgenland <http://www.thermenwelt.at/>; - some hotel/gasthaus
info on limited number of villages; links to these villages (Bob Unger,
Albert Schuch)

URL CHANGES (revised links/descriptions)
(thanks to Albert Schuch and Bob Unger for their assistance on these)
o Burgenland Gemeinden <http://www.burgenland.at/>; - click on "Region
auswähler" for hotel/gasthof info on selected villages; or click on
"Gemeinden" then select desired district; info and small photos of Burgenland
village sites; other links (Note: using right-click may generate script
errors)(revised description only)

o Austrian National Tourist Office <http://austria-tourism.at/>; - includes
vacation tips and links to some hotels; see also the USA link on the "Our
internat Pages" drop-down link at
<http://www.austria-tourism.at/index-usa.html.en>; (revised description; plus
sub-link)

o TIScover Burgenland <http://www.tiscover.com/burgenland/>; - links to the
Austrian provinces; click on Burgenland
<http://www.tiscover.com/1Root/Kontinent/6/Staat/7/Bundesland/22/Homepage/f_ho
mepage...1.html> for information on and links to Burgenland villages; or
enter your village name in the "Schnellsuche" search field; lists of about
700 hotels, restaurants, Gasthauses, etc. in Burgenlandsome, some with their
own websites; to translate, click on "English" in the right upper corner,
then select "English/Englisch" from drop-down menu (revised description, plus
sub-link)

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>From 4/15/2000
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CHANGE ADDRESS
Evelyn Jovicic. to


NEW
Charles Deutsch; (); St. Paul MN; DEUTSCH, SCHNEIDER,
GERSTL in Wallern; LUNZER, SEIFERT in Tadten. Settled in St. Paul Minnesota
in 1880's.

Robert Gibiser; (); Muncie, IN. GIBISER, HEILIMAN,
Heiligenkreuz, Eltendorf, Poppendorf (?). Immigrated to New York early 1900's
(Rudolf Gibiser, Julia Heiliman)

Joan E. McGrath; (); Westminster, MD. PRIENINGER,
KREMPEL, UITZ; FALMHAUPT or FALBENHAUT; PREM; POSCH; KRAUSS; HUTTER;
FRUEWALD; SCHREY; MESSMER; KINNBACHER. St. Martin an der Raab; Muehlgraben;
Windsch-Minihof; Neuhaus am Klausenbach, district of Jennersdorf; and St.
Marein am Pichelbach, St. Veit ob Graz; Goesting-Graz; (Styria) and Plawutch
bei Eggenberg (Lower Austria. Settled in Philadelphia, PA; New York City;
Connecticut, and Maryland.

Charles Stuparits, (); Oak Brook, IL. STUPARITS, Weiden
bei Rechnitz, STEFELY, Schachendorf(Cjaita). Settled in Chicago,IL

Rich Venturi; (); Willits, CA. NOVAKOVITZ, KREMSNER, HOLPER,
Stegersbach (District of Güssing). Place of settlement; Chicago, IL.

REINSTATE

Jerome P. Rosenthal, (); Middle Village, NY, GRATZEL, GRATZL,
KRATZEL, WINDISH, WINDISCH, Moschendorf. TAPLER, Grandfather came to America
before W.W.I Military passport said his family was from Budapest.

END OF NEWSLETTER

BURGENLAND BUNCH STAFF Coordinator & Editor Newsletter>
(Gerald J. Berghold; Winchester, VA )
Burgenland Editor> (Albert Schuch; Vienna &
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Home Page Editor> (Hap Anderson)
Internet/URL Editor> (Anna Tanczos Kresh; Butler,PA)

Contributing Editors:
Austro/Hungarian Research>(Fritz Königshofer)
Burgenland Lake Corner Research> (Dale Knebel)
Chicago Burgenland Enclave> (Tom Glatz)
Croatian Burgenland> (Frank Teklits)
Home Page village lists> (Bill Rudy)
Home Page surname lists> (Tom Steichen)
Judaic Burgenland> (Maureen Tighe-Brown)
Western Hungary-Bakony Region> (Ernest Chrisbacher)
Western US BB Members-Research> (Bob Unger)
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