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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 08:03:37 EST

(now issued monthly by )
October 31, 2000

This third section of the 3 section newsletter contains the first of a
planned Burgenland Composer Series as well as Seeking Family, and many Member
Changes, including seventeen new members-check their family names for
possible links.


(ED. Note: In a previous edition of the newsletter we mentioned that many
well-known musicians either lived or were born in the Burgenland, a unique
musical heritage. The possibilities of genealogical links to descendants of
Burgenland emigrants are thus possible. As a result we will be bringing you
this data as a composer series researched and written by Austrian editor
Fritz Königshofer. The series will tend to lean toward genealogical data
concerning the composers and will appear as Fritz finds the time to complete
his research. Look for others in future issues. Please advise us if you find
that you can link to any of these composers.)


(Franz) Joseph Haydn, born March 31, 1732 in Rohrau, Lower Austria, ranks as
one of the most important composers of all, the first of the so-called Vienna
classics, sometimes named the "Father of the Symphony," whose innovations and
rich and varied oevre laid the ground for Mozart and Beethoven. From
1761-90, and again since 1795, he directed the orchestra of Prince
Eszterházy, first in Eisenstadt, then at the palace of Eszterháza near
Fertõd, and eventually in Vienna. Successful stays in London in 1791/92 and
1794/95 established his fame. As his greatest achievement, Haydn refined the
construction and interaction of motifs for symphonies and sonatas, a
development which opened these forms to the large themes and structures that
followed. He wrote the old imperial hymn of Austria which later became the
national anthem of Germany ("Deutschlandlied"), and which formed the material
for his masterpiece "Emperor's Quartet." Haydn died on May 31, 1809 in

The material for this article comes in a small part from the book by Karl
Geiringer, "Joseph Haydn: Der schöpferische Werdegang eines Meisters der
Klassik" [The creative career of a master of the classic era], published by
Goldmann, Munich, 1986. Most of the material, however, was drawn from the
two-volume set by Ernst Fritz Schmid, "Joseph Haydn: Ein Buch von Vorfahren
und Heimat des Meisters" [A book about the master's ancestors and his
homeland], published 1934 by Bärenreiter in Kassel. Schmid's detailed
genealogical research appears to be cited in most books on Haydn. One of the
book's chapters deals with the meaning of the name Haydn, its spelling
variations, and the geographical spread of the name. Apparently, names like
Haydn, Hayden, Haiden, Heiden and perhaps also Haider or Heider, refer to the
old German word Heide which means "pagan." However, the word might also
refer to "Heidn" in the meaning of buckwheat ("flour of the pagans").
Another closely connected term is "Heide" in the sense of the commonly used
leas and forests of a community (the "Allmende" or "Hutweide"). Apparently,
the old German term Heide (for pagan) might actually have the origin in
something like "forest inhabitant."

Ancestors of Haydn

The birthplace of Haydn, Rohrau in Lower Austria, lies right at the border of
Burgenland, not far south of the Danube. For much of the 2nd millenium (till
1920), this had been the historic border between Austria and Hungary. It
turns out that Kaspar Haydn, the greatgrandfather of Joseph, had hailed from
Tadten in Burgenland's Lake Corner, Hungarian name Tétény or later
Mosontétény. A number of Burgenland Bunch members have ancestors in Tadten
or environs. They may well be blood-relations of the composer!

Kaspar Haydn moved from Tadten to Hainburg in Lower Austria where he was a
cartwright (carriage builder). He and his wife lost their lives in 1683 when
the Turks took the town on their way to the siege of Vienna, and burned it
down. Their property went to their 23 year old son Thomas Haydn (Joseph
Haydn's grandfather), also a cartwright, who later became a (free) citizen of
Hainburg. Thomas Haydn died in 1701.

Joseph Haydn's father, Mathias Haydn, was born on January 31, 1699 in
Hainburg. There were six brothers altogether, with the oldest 12 years old,
and Mathias only 2, when their father died. Mathias also learned the craft
of a cartwright, became a journeyman in 1717, and traveled as far as
Frankfurt am Main. Eventually, he settled in Rohrau where in 1728 he married
Maria Koller, served as the town judge (corresponding to mayor) from 1741-61,
and was known for playing the harp without the ability to read notes. After
the death of Maria nee Koller in 1754, Mathias Haydn remarried Maria Anna

As to the mother's side of Joseph Haydn's ancestry, his grandfather Lorenz
Koller, born in Pachfurth (a border village between Rohrau and Bruck an der
Leitha), was a farmer in Rohrau. He and his family lost all their belongings
when Hungarian rebels raided Rohrau in 1704, and again in 1706, during the
so-called Kurucz uprising. Lorenz became town judge of Rohrau in 1713 and
died in 1718. Joseph Haydn's mother Maria Koller was born on November 10,
1707 in Rohrau. She was only 11 when her father died. She entered the
service of the overlords of Rohrau, the counts Harrach, as a cook.

One can thus conclude that the ancestors of Joseph Haydn were all ethnic
German craftsmen or farmers from the Austro-Hungarian border region, with the
Haydn line itself originating from today's Lake Corner of the Burgenland.
Haydn's parents had achieved a certain local status, which is what perhaps
enabled them to place their gifted child in a boys' choir in Vienna in 1740.
Nevertheless, the young Joseph Haydn received only haphazard formal
instruction in music (which he financed himself by doing whatever paid work
he could obtain), but mostly had to educate himself.

Joseph Haydn and his brothers and sisters

(Franz) Joseph Haydn married Maria nee Keller from Chlumetz in Bohemia.
However, the marriage remained childless. Schmid writes that stories always
abounded about "illegitimate" children of Joseph Haydn (as well as
illegitimate children of Haydn's father), and calls this an area "to be
researched further" (at the time of Schmid's book). Haydn himself is cited
as using his wife's inability to conceive as "justification" for his
extra-marital adventures. In any case, the most persistently rumored natural
son of Joseph Haydn was Alois Anton Nikolaus (also called Antonio) Polzelli,
born April 22, 1783 in Süttör, the site of the Eszterháza Palace, as son of
Haydn's mistress Aloisia Polzelli and, officially, her husband Anton
Polzelli. The daughters of Antonio apparently were convinced that their real
grandfather was the composer. In the 1870s, one of these daughters, Emilie,
lived in relative poverty in Budapest as the wife of a Mr. Wölföl (or Wölfl,

Two brothers of Joseph Haydn survived to adulthood. One of them, (Johann)
Michael Haydn, born 1737 in Rohrau, became a well-known composer in his own
right, lived and died (1806) in Salzburg, and married Marie Magdalena nee
Lipp. Only one child sprang from this marriage, but it died as a baby. The
other brother, Johann Haydn, born 1743 in Rohrau, never married (and is not
known to have had any progeny). He was a singer in the Eszterházi orchestra,
and died 1805 in Eisenstadt.

Three sisters of Joseph survived to adulthood. The first of these was Anna
Maria Franziska, born 1730 in Rohrau, died 1781 in Fertõszentmiklós (Sopron
county, near Kapuvár). She was first (1750) married in Rohrau to Johann
Vieltzwieser (Filzwieser), a widower, and secondly (1771) in Fertõszentmiklós
to Jakob Traumbauer. The only known further descendents were from daughter
Anna Maria Vieltzwieser, born 1751, who married Johann Michael Wimmer, an
innkeeper in Fertõszentmiklós. One child of that marriage, Josepha Anna
Wimmer, born 1778, married Joseph Apeller, a physician practicing madicine in
Kapuvár. Therefore, any descendents possibly living today after Anna Maria
Franziska Haydn, sister of the composer, might well only be via the line
Joseph Apeller of Kapuvár and his wife Josepha Anna nee Wimmer.

The second sister was Anna Maria Haydn, born 1739 in Rohrau, where she died
in 1802. Anna Maria first married Johann Philipp Fröhlich in 1757, son of
Lorenz and Gertrud Fröhlich of Rohrau, a blacksmith, and secondly married in
1777, Ignaz Raffler, son of Jakob and Maria Raffler, a blacksmith in
Schönabrunn (which was also a border village near Rohrau, in the opposite
direction from Pachfurth). There were numerous descendents from Anna Maria,
probably mostly or all from the first marriage (Fröhlich). These are the
family names and locations from about 1780 onwards which might indicate
possible descendants of Anna Maria nee Haydn:

Beaver Falls (USA): Simek //
Bela Crkva (Weisskirchen in Banat): Simek //
Berlin (Germany): Maax //
Bremen (Germany): Lappenberg, Lohmann //
Cattaro: Simek //
Fischamend (Lower Austria): Fröhlich //
Gerhaus (near Rohrau): Hammer //
Haslau an der Donau: Mosberger
Höflein (in Lower Austria, near Rohrau, not the one in Burgenland):
Gogoditsch, Müllner, Schoderitz //
Huchling (near Bremen): Trost //
Naarn (Upper Austria): Kleinsasser //
Olsnitz (Murska Sobota, Slovenia): Höcher //
Petronell (near Rohrau): Dietrich //
Pressburg (Bratislava): Höcher //
Reutlingen (Germany): Herrmann //
Rintelen an der Weser (Germany): Sixel //
Rio de Janeiro: Sixel //
Rohrau: Böheim, Fröhlich, Höcher, Mosberger //
Scharndorf (near Rohrau): Müllner //
Süttör: Moser, Schilldorfer, Wisauer //
Széplak and Sopron: Luegmayer //
Trebinje (Hercegovina): Simek //
Vienna: Becher, Buhl, Dobrodinsky, Fröhlich, Gogoditsch, Herndlhofer,
Höcher, Kehrer, Petrina //

The third surviving sister of the composer was Anna Katharina Haydn, born
1741 in Rohrau. She married Christoph Näher, son of Johann Martin and Klara
Näher, rifle maker in Munderkingen an der Donau (near Ulm, Germany).
Christoph Näher had found a job as rifle maker for the Harrach family in
Rohrau. The couple had a son, Leopold Näher, born 1764 in Rohrau, but
nothing seems to be known about his fate.

>From the second marriage of father Mathias Haydn with Maria Anna nee Seder,
no childen survived to adulthood.

Siblings of Joseph Haydn's father Mathias Haydn

Joseph Gregor Haydn, born 1689 in Hainburg (died around 1739), was likely a
cartwright in Ungarisch Altenburg (Magyaróvár, Moson county). First he
married Anna Drobarth from Magyaróvár, and then Theresia Vogt from Hainburg.
There were several offspring from these marriages (Andreas, Joseph, Mathias,
Anna Maria) who might have produced further descendants.

Johann Haydn was born 1696 in Hainburg. He settled in Frankenmarkt, Upper
Austria, where he first married Maria Sunzinger, and secondly Maria Rosa
Sayller. There were several children, all born in Frankenmarkt. Johann
Haydn died in Frankenmarkt in 1751.

Anton Haydn was born 1701 in Hainburg. In 1728 in Petronell, he married
Magdalena, a widow. Anton first operated the Wirtshaus zu den Sieben Brunnen
(Inn to the Seven Springs) in Petronell, and then became a city-guardsman in
Pressburg. Child Michael was born 1729 in Petronell, while children Franz
Xaver (1741) and Maria Anna (1743) were born in Pressburg. According to
Schmid's book, nothing is known about further descendents.

Mathias Haydn also had step-siblings from the second marriage of his mother
with Mathias Seefranz. These lines will be discussed later.

The families of Joseph Haydn's paternal grandfather and greatgrandfather

Grandfather Thomas Haydn was born in about 1657 in Hainburg, where he died in
1701. In 1687 in Hainburg, Thomas married Katharina Blainninger (born 1671,
died 1739). After the death of her husband, Katharina nee Blainninger
married Mathias Seefranz (born in Bruck an der Leitha).

Little appears to be known about the siblings of Thomas. One brother,
Johannes, born 1668, became a Turkish prisoner of war, and nothing was heard
of him anymore. A sister Magdalene, born after 1668, probably married
someone by the name Damm, but nothing was known to Schmid regarding any

About greatgrandfather Kaspar Haydn, Schmid only mentions that he was born in
Tadten, and married in Hainburg. His wife was Elisabeth nee Schalck,
daughter of Adam and Margarethe Schalck of Hainburg.

Half-siblings of Mathias Haydn

After the death of Thomas Haydn, his widow Katharina nee Blainninger married
Mathias Seefranz. Mathias had been born in Bruck an der Leitha, as the son
of Adam Seefranz and Maria nee Griessler. While the latter was from Bruck an
der Leitha, Adam Seefranz apparently hailed "from Styria."

According to Schmid, the following is known about the children from the
marriage of Mathias Seefranz with Katharina Haydn nee Blainninger (i.e., the
half-siblings of Mathias Haydn). There was a son Johann Jakob Seefranz, born
1703 in Hainburg whose fate is unknown. Another son, Johann Adam Seefranz,
was born 1708 in Hainburg, married Barbara Hütting in 1738 in Neusiedl am
See, and was a cartwright there. The couple had at least one daughter,
Katharina Seefranz, born 1742 in Neusiedl am See. Johann Adam died there in
the same year.

There was also a daughter of Mathias and Katharina Seefranz, namely Julianna
Rosina Seefranz, born 1711 in Hainburg where she died in 1760. In Hainburg
in 1733, Julianna Rosina married the school rector and choir-regent Johann
Mathias Franck (whose parents were from Ketzelsdorf in northeastern Lower
Austria). They had sons who stayed in Hainburg (Seefranz line), a daughter
who married a Neumann, and another daughter who married the school-rector of
Hainburg, Philipp Schimpel. Children of the latter couple lived in Hainburg
and Göding [location of the latter is unclear]. Other names further down the
line of descendents from Julianna Rosina Franck nee Seefranz are Nussdorfer
and Heininger.

Siblings of Joseph Haydn's mother, Anna Maria nee Koller

Mathias Koller, a brother of Haydn's mother, was born 1710 in Rohrau, and
died 1742 in Gerhaus (a village close to Rohrau). He married Maria Katharina
Ailffinger. There were descendents of this couple in Gerhaus.

Theresia Koller, a sister of Haydn's mother, was born 1712 in Rohrau. She
first married Johann Georg Graf, of Rohrau, then Mathias Anton Madl from
Bruck an der Leitha. There were children from both marriages who are
believed to have grown up in Bruck an der Leitha. Schmid's book does not
know the place and death date of Theresia.

Another brother of Haydn's mother was Johann Kaspar Koller, born 1714 in
Rohrau who died 1741 in Pachfurth. In 1741 he married Katharina Franziska
Walpurga Kaintz of Pachfurth. Of their children, Franz Koller, born 1742,
married Christina and was a blacksmith in Göttlesbrunn (near Bruck an der
Leitha); another child, Anna Katharina Koller, born 1746, married Andreas
Köttbaum, an innkeeper in Schiltern (now Jánosiková near Pressburg in
Slovakia); and yet another child, Maria Theresia Koller, born 1750, first
married Georg Stainer, then Anton Nestmayer, the latter a harness-maker
master in Eisenstadt.

The family of Lorenz Koller, Haydn's maternal grandfather

Lorenz Koller was born 1675 in Rohrau, where he died in 1718. He was the son
of Philipp Koller, and the grandson of Nikolaus Koller, both from Pachfurth.
Lorenz Koller was married with Susanna nee Siebel, see further below.

Lorenz Koller had a sister Maria, born 1673, who married Thomas Winkler, an
innkeeper and village judge in Pachfurth. Another sister of Lorenz, Barbara,
born 1677, married Anton Schäffer, a farmer in Pachfurth.

The family of Susanna Siebel, Haydn's maternal grandmother

The maternal grandmother of the composer was Susanna Siebel, born 1685 in
Rohrau, where she died in 1756 (two years after the death of her daughter
Anna Maria, Haydn's mother). The parents of Susanna Siebel were Martin
Siebel, a master flour miller from Prellenkirchen (near Rohrau to the east)
where he died in 1710, and his first wife Barbara. The name of the second
wife was Maria Schäffer of Pachfurth.

Susanna Koller nee Siebel had a full sister from the first marriage of her
father, with name Apollonia. Nothing seems to be known about her.
Half-siblings of Susanna from the second marriage of Martin Siebel were
Johann Georg Siebel, born 1699 in Prellenkirchen, about whom nothing is
known; and Anna Theresa Siebel, born 1702 in Prellenkirchen, who married
Johann Roschmann. There was at least one son, Johann Roschmann jun., born
1724 in Prellenkirchen.


As can be seen, the direct genealogical links from Joseph Haydn to the
Burgenland are through (i) his greatgrandfather Kaspar who had been born in
Tadten, (ii) one Seefranz branch who moved to Neusiedl am See, and (iii) the
Stainer and Nestmayer line in Eisenstadt. However, numerous other branches
lived in nearby areas of Lower Austria and Hungary (today's Gyõr-Moson-Sopron

In the genealogy of Haydn one cannot fail but note how uneven the descendents
of a family can be distributed. Many genealogical researchers have similar
experiences with the (forward) trees of their families. In Haydn's case, it
looks as if his ancestry culminated in producing him, the genius, and his
also highly talented brother Michael, while the "family effort" almost ended
there, were it not for the numerous and broad assembly of descendants from
just one sister, Anna Maria.

The next article in this series will be about the genealogy of Ferencz
(Franz) Liszt who was born 1811 in Raiding, Burgenland.


From: (Hans Gumprecht)

Before 1938, Herr Adolf Reiss emigrated to California with his family from
Edelstal, Burgenland. He has since died but I know he had two sons. I don't
know their names. He also had a brother, Dr. Friedrich Reiss, who lived in
New York many years. He was doctor and a professor at Columbia University. He
has also died. If possible I would like to hear from any descendants. I'm a
Burgenländer and lived four years in Switzerland. I am writing a history of
Edelstal. Heartfelt thanks and friendly greetings!


Linda Baer; ( ); Lincoln University, PA. REITBAUER, EMRY
(EMERY), PUMMER. All settled in and around Allentown, PA early 1900's.

Earl Barret; ( ); Sherman Oaks, CA. YURASITS (JURASITS);
Szt. Peterfa, Hungary. Grandfather immigrated to America sometime around
1900, name here was Yurasits although probably Jurasits in Hungary. Settled
in Canton, Ohio but might also have been in Allentown, PA.

Edward Drimmel; ( ); Toronto, ON, Canada. DRIMMEL.
Minihof, Sooss, Lower Austria.

Rose Fairchok, (); North Huntingdon, PA. JOST(YOST),
Raabfidisch. Settled in Pittsburgh, PA

Jeffrey Gatscher; ( ); Nashville, TN. GATSCHER.
Grafenschachen. US Immigration City: Detroit, MI (Metropolitan Area)

Elaine Grace; ( ); Hobe Sound, FL. ELEANORA FISCHER,
(2-8-1883), Tobaj, settled in Cincinnati, Ohio 1902 and FRANK LEITNER,
(10-1-1875), Deutsch Tschantschendorf, settled in Cincinnati 1903. Names of
Frank's family are JANI, ROSNER and HORVATH.

Dawn Lavan; ( ) Ocala, FL. GUTTMAN, PILLER, FIXL. Burg.
Settled in Chicago, IL.

Emma Murray; ( ); Fair Lawn, NJ. JAUTZ or YAUTZ;
Heiligenkreuz, lived in Deutsch Tschantschendorf. Came to NYC, then moved to
West New York, Hudson County, NJ.

Silvia Nikles-Berner; ( ); Güssing, Burgenland, Austria.
BERNER from St. Nikolaus (Szt. Miklosz) left Burgenland before 1955, settled
in PA; maternal surnames: WINDISCH, GOLLINGER from Tschanigraben ( Sandorhegy
- RC Rönök,Hungary) or Felsörönök, left Burgenland in the 1900s or before,
settled in PA and other states.

Walter Reicher; () ; Eisenstadt, Austria; REICHER,

Robert Schonfelder; ; Mission,Tx.;Pinkafeld; THIER,

Henry Sinai; ( ); Raanana, Israel. SINAI. Eisenstadt;
Florisdorf (?); Vienna.

Doug Sommer; ( ), Depere, WI. SOMMER, THURINGER, LOOS,
FUHRMAN, KLUBENSTEIN, THURY, ZWINGER. Sankt Andrä, Wallern, Frauenkirchen -
Settled in the Dimock, Parkston, Delmont area of South Dakota.

Béla Turcsányi; ( ); Budapest, Hungary. SCHMELTZER,
REISS, KREBS, LISTMAYER, STOTZ, MACHER. Zurndorf (district of Neusiedl).

Craig Vollman, ( ); Mount Pleasant, NC. VOLLMAN (VOLLMANN),
BAUER, PERSONHOFER. Rudersdorf and Furstenfeld, Styria. Settled in Lehigh

Jana Wachsler-Felder; ( ); Rochester, NY; WACHSLER;
Austria, Yugoslavia, Hungary. Decendants in Boston, Israel, New York, Texas
and other states.

Fr. Thomas A. Zotter; Albuquerque, New Mexico;
( ); Researching: ZOTTER, LANG, WINDISCH; Welten/Sankt Martin
an der Raab; emigrated to Pittsburgh, Pa. (Northside).


Recently, QWEST bought USWEST...my E-mail address will change... change my
address to: (Bob Geshel)

From: (Edward Drimmel)
Minihoff-Liebau is not the Minihof that I am researching.
(turns out to be Kroatisch Minihof in the district of Oberpullendorf).


John Lostys, ( ); Elmhurst, NY. GIBISER, PINTER,

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