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From: "Mark Breeze" <>
Subject: Re: [Bla'Gwent] John & Elizabeth Breeze, Tredegar circa 1850 - 1860.
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 10:03:51 -0000
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Hello Barrie

Thanks for that - I knew some of it - but the absence of any appearence in
Merthyr in 1871 is a bonus.

My problem is the pre-1881 history - I have a reasonable picture after then
with Jonathan moving to Celynen, Mons. - except I do not know when Elizabeth
died.

Because John Breeze is dead by 1881 I don't know his age or where he was
born. Because his son, Jonathan, was born in 1865 in Tredegar, I'm hoping
that the family were in Tredegar in 1861 and/or 1871 and I can (eventually)
track them down on the census. Hopefully this might show other siblings for
Jonathan which will give some clue as to when John and Elizabeth married.

There is a family story that says John died when Jonathan was 7 - around
1872.

I guess that there must have been Tin Plate works in or near Tredegar in the
1860's/1870's for John to have been a Tin Plate Roller(?). Perhaps another
at Dowlais to explain the move there?

Mark


----- Original Message -----
From: "barrie" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Bla'Gwent] John & Elizabeth Breeze, Tredegar circa 1850 -
1860.


> Hello Mark,
>
> Forgive me if you have received this before:-
>
> Dwelling: 3 Court Cross Wind Street
> Census Place: Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
> Source: FHL Film 1342279 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5314 Folio
> 155 Page 27
> Marr Age Sex Birthplace
> Elizabeth BREEZE W 56 F Tredegar, Monmouth,
> England
> Rel: Head
> Jonathan BREEZE 15 M Tredegar, Monmouth, England
> Rel: Son
> Occ: Collier
> Daniel MORGAN U 17 M Cwmbach, Glamorgan, Wales
> Rel: Nephew
> Occ: Collier
> Sullivan MORGAN U 16 M Tredegar
> Rel: Nephew
> Occ: Collier
>
> Cross Wind Street was in Dowlais.
>
> Who would be the Morgan nephews?
>
> The only Breeze/Breese families in Merthyr on my index for 1871 were:-
>
> BREES WILLIAM 32
> BREEZE EMILY 30
> BREEZE LEWIS 60
> BREEZE RICHARD GEORGE 2
> BREEZE SAMUEL 30
>
> So they weren't in Merthyr as far as the index goes.
>
> The 1871 is not indexed, addresses or surname as yet. Still to be
> completed by Powys early this year. It is difficult to search otherwise.
>
> What other children did you find with John and Elizabeth in 1861. This
> may give a clue to where they could be in 1871
>
> Did you find Jonathan's family on 1891 and 1901.
>
> Neil Breeze and his wife kept the Cambrian Inn in Castle Street for many
> years up until about 3 years ago.
>
> best wishes
>
> Barrie Jones, Gwent
>
> In message Mark Breeze <> writes:-
>
> >Researching John Breeze and his wife Elizabeth (born 1825, Tredegar).
Living in
> >Tredegar in 1865 when one known son Jonathan is born.
> >
> >John's occupation is given as "Tin Plate Roller" on Jonathan's marriage
> >certificate (1890) and he is deceased.
> >
> >John appears to have died between 1865 and 1881 (absent on that census).
> >
> >Any leads gratefully received!
> >
> >Mark
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