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From: "Lee Paltridge" <>
Subject: Occupation as Porter - HOARE puzzle
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 19:09:15 +0800
In-Reply-To: <001401c67204$123b7540$c1d5e23c@ruthie>


Ruth's wonderful compendium of Tobacco Pipemakers references contained the
list of the incorporated crafts in the procession. (Glass Making in Bristol
~ and ~ Tobacco Pipemakers part 2, 8 May)

I had seen it before, and always liked the idea of the 'Joiners with music
before them'. But seeing it again, I have been puzzled as to what 'craft'
would have been exercised by porters. Would they have completed an
apprenticeship to be a porter? Did the word mean then something other than
it means today ?

Here's why I want to know.
John HOARE, apprenticed in 1726 as dyer, described as son of George HOARE,
Miller of the City of Bristol, deceased.
George HOARE, apprenticed in 1728, as joiner, described as son of George
HOARE, Porter, deceased.

Are they describing the same father?

George HOARE senior was buried at St Peters in 1719, and George junior's
baptism in 1711 to George and Elizabeth HOARE in St Peters ties the two
Georges neatly together as father and son. I have not found on the St Peters
BT the marriage of George HOARE snr and Elizabeth, or the birth of their
daughter Elizabeth who died in 1714, nor the birth of a son John, but my
ancestor John HOARE in due course named two of his children George and
Elizabeth.

So the question is, would two boys name the same deceased father as a miller
and as a porter. Were the trades in any way related?

Lee
Perth, Western Australia





-----Original Message-----
From: Ruth Curtis [mailto:]
Sent: Monday, 8 May 2006 2:29 AM
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Subject: RE: [B&S] Glass Making in Bristol ~ and ~ Tobacco Pipemakers
Company ~ 2/2

>>snip>>>
A Chronological Outline of the History of Bristol and the Strangers Guide
through its streets and neighbourhood ---- by John Evans, Printer. 1824
http://www.rogerco.freeserve.co.uk/history/265.htm

includes:

1743:
March 27, the Exchange-Market was opened.
Sept. 27, the Exchange itself was opened with great solemnity. Mr Wood
(author of a Description of Bath, in 2 vols. 8vo.) was the architect. The
cost was about £50,000. The following, according to the printed account of
this ceremony, were now the incorporated crafts of Bristol:

1. Masons
2. Tilers
3. Porters
4. Hauliers
5. Carpenters
6. Tobacco-pipe-makers
7. Turners
8. Hatters
9. Saddlers
10. Innholders
11. Bakers
12. Butchers
13. Tanners
14. Cordwainers
15. Wire-drawers
16. Joiners with music before them
17. Dyers
18. Whitetawers
19. Hoopers
20. Smiths
21. Surgeons
22. Weavers
23. Tailors

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