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From: "lindahill" <>
Subject: Fw: Questions, Questions.
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:13:07 +1000


Thanks Pat,

You`ve been very informative and thereby helpful.
Never occurred to me that a Testament could be a will. Was thinking more
along the lines of a testimony in court.
You are joking, I take it, about the Sasines -as in the Sasines of Bible
fame - if not, then what is (are) it (they)?

Linda

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Jeffs" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 6:06 AM
Subject: Re: Questions, Questions.


> Hi Linda and Everyone
>
> If there were ever an e-mail deserving an answer back to the group,
> yours is it, Linda.
>
> I was hoping to find answers in my copy of Hamilton-Edwards "In Search
> of Scottish Ancestry", but it is hiding I know not where and I am
> having to rely on Kathleen Cory's "Tracing your Scottish Ancestry",
> first edition.
>
> Answers follow the questions.
>
>
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > A couple of queries am needing help with. Do you know what type of
> information I would find in:-
> >
> > The Binn Papers, 1320-1864?
>
> Not in Mrs Cory's index. I have never heard of them.
> >
> > A General Nomenclator and Obituary. Would this only be to do with
> famous people? Is an Obituary only an announcement of death?
>
> Another one not in Mrs Cory's index. It sounds like the first report a
> solicitor would prepare in assessing a person's estate after his
> death. Nomenclator has to do with names. Perhaps the names and
> addresses of the heirs, but also perhaps the names and addresses of
> people who were owed money by the deceased.
> >
> > A Commissariot Record?
>
> The Commissary Court of Edinburgh was instituted in 1563-4 (after the
> reformation) and dealt with "causes or actions in relation to
> marriage, legitimacy and divorce as well as executry, and acted as a
> general court for the whole country for such matters. Local commissary
> courts retained a more limited jurisdiction. In 1830 almost the whole
> of the old commissary jurisdiction was transferred to the Court of
> Session."
> A Commissariot Record would be the account of the dealings of the
> court with one action brought before it.
>
> >
> > Services of Heirs?
>
> Also known as retours.
> "When lands were inherited by an heir and not given to a grantee, a
> brieve was issued from Chancery. this instructed the Sheriff of the
> county concerned to empanel a jury whose responsibility it was to
> discover what lands the deceased possessed at the time of his death,
> and to obtain proof from the heir as to his right to inherit. The jury
> returned or 'retoured' their verdict to Chancery who then issued the
> heir with his 'retour' and the heir could then take possession of his
> inheritance."
> >
> > Calendar of Irregular Marriages?
>
> "An irregular marriage is one which is perfectly valid but for which
> no Banns were called, rendering the marriage clandestine." Lists of
> irregular marriages have been published in the Border Counties, where
> a lot of couples came up from London to be wed. Gretna was only one of
> a number of places where these occurred.
> >
> > A Protocol Book?
>
> My sources are not helping me on this one.
> >
> > Would the Register of Apprentices, 1756-1800 Midlothian : Edinburgh
> only contain a list of apprentices from Edinburgh?
>
> More likely a list of apprentices working in Edinburgh. They might
> have come from anywhere.
> >
> > Directory of Landownership, 1770: Scotland. Would this cover all
> of Scotland?
> >
> > Does anyone know anything about:-
> > The Musgrave`s Obituaries?
>
> See below.
>
> > The Harleian Society?
>
> This is a society (still exists) which publishes records such as
> volumes of pedigrees from the Herald's Visitations of the English
> counties in the 16th and 17th centuries, and also a great many parish
> registers, mostly of London, and six volumes of Musgrave's Obituary
> prior to 1800 [oh, here it is!], culled from the Scots Magazine, the
> European Magazine and the annual and historical registers. [This is
> from Terrick Fitzhugh's Dictionary of Genealogy.]
>
> > The Calendar of Writs?
>
> "A writ is an instrument in writing (under seal) issued by a court,
> commanding or forbidding the performance of some act by the person to
> whom it was addressed." [Terrick Fitzhugh] A Calendar of Writs would
> be an accumulation of writs produced annually or maybe quarterly.
>
> > Just what is a Testament?
>
> A will. The document describing the deceased's wishes regarding the
> disposal of his property.
> >
> > An entry says:- Argyle, Caithness, Sutherland, Argyll, Invarness, &
> Hebrides: Would one of these Argyle`s contain our Buteshire? (1674
> onwards)
>
> Brandanes (people of Bute) still say that Bute is not in Argyll. The
> county is known as Bute & Argyll.
> >
> > Sorry to air my ignorance, but chances are that I`m not the only who
> doesn`t know about these documents.
> >
> > Replies about any or all of the above would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Linda, I hope this helps. I am not an expert. I just had a couple of
> books at hand. How come you missed out Sasines?
>
> /cheers
>
> Pat Jeffs
> Buckinghamshire
> England
>
>
>
>
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