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From: "Pat Hammons" <>
Subject: Re: [CAMP-L] Camp records at Jefferson, GA
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:49:10 -0600
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Hi Carole,

I enjoy your posts very much. I can relate to Sharing information and then
finding it all over the internet. That happened to me on another family
line. Plus the person put out some living informatiion. I was put out, I
did not mind that the person put it on roots web, but I did mind about not
putting the sources, etc.

Pat



----- Original Message -----
From: "Carole Johnson" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [CAMP-L] Camp records at Jefferson, GA


> Hi Judy,
> Thanks for the post. I guess what I wish for is the impossible. Since
> names
> repeated so frequently in each generation it will be difficult to verify
> which
> person descends from whom. I know the Manns credited a "Judge Price"
> with some of the traditional Camp research, but I don't think anyone
> actually
> can validate who she was. The Camp Bulletins are filled with errors. I
> have
> the transcripts of the Naezing Parrish records and know that they are
> accurate -
> but again, the names repeat so frequently it is impossible to know for
> certain
> which child goes with which parent. The church warden told me that it was
> the custom in the old days to bury the dead of top of the dead instead of
> clearing additional burying grounds. There are no markers at All Saints
> Church in Naezing that are readable beyond 1800. The ground around the
> church is almost two feet higher than the foundation. There is a trench
> surrounding
> the church to enable water to drain from it. This would help support that
> the dead was buried on top of the dead. The warden also told me that
> she suspects our Camp's were interred in the area closest to the front of
> the church.
>
> Then we have in Virginia the problem with burned court houses, either
> through natural causes or the Civil War. I don't mean to discredit this
> mysterious Judge Price or Jeanette Austin, or the Manns, but how
> much innocently innaccurate information has been perpetuated? In
> my own situation I snail mailed my research on another line to a
> cousin, indicating in my notes what was proven, the sources and
> what was speculation. In a matter of months my research ended
> up on the World Family Tree minus the notes on what was speculated.
> I had felt comfortable in explaining my speculation and sharing to my
close
> cousin.
> She innocently passed it on to someone who was just beginning to
> research and before you know it, my speculation is being displayed
> for other unsuspecting folks as fact. I've since found errors in my
> own speculation, but how can it now be retracted from the WFT?
> It can't.
>
> While visiting the Tarpley Store in Williamsburg I was astounded to see
> all of the folks on the vistors list stating that they were direct
> descendants
> of the Tarpleys through the Camps. When I asked to see the head docent
> and showed her copies of wills on file at William and Mary and at Richmond
> that James Tarpley died without issue she dismissed me with "that doesn't
> matter, we were given a computer print-out that said the Tarpleys were
> these people's ancestors." Sometimes it is too convenient to believe
> non-truths. We ARE direct descendants of Tarpleys - just not that line.
>
> It was stated in the Camp Bulletin that the brother of Mary Tarpley was an
> early
> Circuit Rider. If he was, there is no proof with the Methodist Church. I
> am
> a Methodist and have access to historical records; I've yet to find any
> record.
> He might have started out with intentions to be and found the life too
> difficult
> and was never ordained. Yet somehow in family lore, it becomes
> unintentionally embelished.
>
> In my own Camp line, I feel fairly certain about what is from Thomas Camp
> III
> on down. I've actually seen his grave. I believe John Camp did marry
> Mary Tarpley. I have the transcripts of the North Farnham Church to back
> that up. I am not so certain about Thomas III's grandson, James,
> supposedly my ancestor. I
> think some of the data from James, grandson of Thomas III, is
intermingled
> with
> James, son of Thomas III. There is plenty of census data
> to confirm James's son, Big-Headed John and grandson, James Seaborn are
> my direct ancestors. Beyond Thomas III, I just don't know.
>
> I am the historian for my little country church which was founded in 1838.
> For
> years it has been perpetuated that a certain man was a Congregational
> Minister
> and began the church and that it didn't become a Methodist Church until
> the mid 1850s. In researching I can find absolutely no evidence that this
> particular man, who had an unusual surname, ever existed. What I did find
> and have tremendous evidence to support it, that a sweet lady in our
> congregation
> in her late 80s with no living relatives has had continuous membership
with
> each
> generation to the real beginning of the church as a Methodist institution
in
> 1838.
> So with very little real reseach we have 150+ years of speculation turned
> into
> something of tangible proof that is far dearer than the speculation. We
> have
> just purchased 60 acres of land surrounding the church and with the soon
> building of a new sanctuary rename our current church after this dear
lady's
> family. What satifaction this has given me, to be a small part of
something
> that matters to someone else.
>
> Too much for my small intellect to comprehend.
> Carole
> >
>
>

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