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From: "Connie Middleton" <>
Subject: Re: [CAN-SHIPS-PRE1865] quick question
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 17:26:58 -0500
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Lorine

Thank you so much for your informative replys. It is so appreciated

----- Original Message -----
From: "Olive Tree Genealogy" <>
To: "Randy Wilson" <>; <>
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [CAN-SHIPS-PRE1865] quick question




On 12 Jan 2007 at 15:50, Randy Wilson wrote:



>
> I'm just starting the process of trying to figure out when
> my ancestors came from within Ireland. What i have is
> John Wilson (born in Ireland 1832) and Ellen Wilson (born
> in Ireland 1835). They are in the 1881 Canadian Census
> showing all their child (which matches what I have). It
> says that all 9 children were born in Quebec. The oldest
> child born in 1858. My question is what process did an
> immigrant go through when they first landed in Canada? Is
> there documentation out there i can search on to find what
> port of entry they came through?

It is quite likely they arrived in Quebec. The problem is
that there are no comprehensive lists of immigrants
arriving in Canada prior to 1865. Until that year, shipping
companies were not required by the government to keep their
passenger manifests.

You need to get a more precise immigration year - from
census records. 1901 has an immigration year, if either
parent lived that long. Be aware tho' that the year given
can be out by a year or two on either side

Did John and Ellen marry in Ireland? Or did they come as
young children with their parents and marry here? We can't
narrow the immigration year without knowing that

Here are individual projects and databases online that may
be of help in your search:

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Immigration Projects Online

There are a few surviving passenger lists which were kept
by
shipping agents in the originating country. The Passenger
Books of J & J Cooke, Shipping Agents gives sailings from
Londonderry to Quebec and St. John New Brunswick from 1847
to 1871. These are online at

http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/jjcooke.shtml

St. Lawrence Steamboat Co. Passenger Records 1819-1836 at
http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/1819_20inde
x.htm

The Hawke Papers, letterbooks of Chief Emigrant Agent
Anthony B. Hawke are also available at the Archives of
Ontario. They cover the years 1831 to 1892. See the
searchable database at
http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/english/db/hawke.htm


Emigrants from England in New York City Almshouse 1818-1830
- 254 names of English immigrants to Canada & USA including
the name of the ship they sailed on at
http://www.allenglishrecords.com/almshouse-a-f.shtml

If you are looking for Irish ancestors, you may want to
search the online database Immigrants at Grosse-Île at
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/genealogy/022-504-e.html

This database has information on 33,026 immigrants whose
names appear in surviving records of the Grosse-Île
Quarantine Station between 1832 and 1937.

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There are search engines to search multiple websites for
ships going to Canada at

http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_shipscanada.shtml

They include most ships lists on the Internet going to
Canada and the online InGeneas databases for immigration to
Canada 1800s

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New Brunswick Arrivals

The Saint John Customs House Passenger Lists 1815, 1832,
1833-1834 & 1837-1838 are the only known surviving lists
from this time period. Some can be found online at
http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/saintjohnin
dex.htm Most of the Customs House records were lost in
1877 in the Great Fire of Saint John. Famine lists from
1845-1850 appear also to have been lost.

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Newspaper Arrivals

TheShipsList website has Quebec ship arrivals extracted
from
contemporary newspapers.

See

http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/Arrivals/index.htm

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Library & Archives Canada Holdings

There are some passenger lists archived at the NAC
(National Archives of Canada) for the time period 1817-
1831. You might also find an ancestor in correspondence of
the Secretary of State on immigration for 1817-1857. There
are lists of immigrants, mainly Irish, and entry books re
immigration, and assisted emigration to British North
America. These must be ordered offline . Details are given
at
http://olivetreegenealogy.com/articles/immcanpre1865.shtml

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Miscellaneous Websites with Immigration Information on
Ships
to Canada

Immigrants to Canada
http://ist.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/thevoyage.html

The Ships List
http://www.theshipslist.com/

Ships Passenger Lists Online
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/

Finding Ships Passenger Lists to Canada
http://shipslists-online.rootschat.net/canada/

Ships Passenger Lists to Canada 1400-1930
http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocan1400-1800.shtml

I would also check earlier census records - did you try the
1851 census? It's online. See http://allcensusrecords.com/
and choose CANADA then 1851

Did you check land records? Many purchased land shortly
after arrival. See http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ and
choose QUEBEC since your family obviously lived there for
some period of time.

Best of luck!
Lorine
-- Lorine McGinnis Schulze

* Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists)
http://olivetreegenealogy.com/
* Naturalization Records
http://naturalizationrecords.com/
* Images of Ships Lists
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/

or



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search multiple websites for ships to Canada at

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